Wow, this is great. Thank you.
So ZED is a leader among Exterminators... right?

--- In zardozthemovie@yahoogroups.com, "vzd963" <vzd963@...> wrote:
>
> When Tony Pratt took over as designer of "Zardoz" (from writer/designer Bill
Stair, who had found the pressure too much for him), he designed the
Exterminators to be all in grey - so the masks were vacu-formed in grey plastic.
After shooting a test, it was decided that the Exterminators blended into the
background too much, so they were given red costumes (the boots were made of
stiff sail-cloth), and the masks were painted white. Sean Connery and the
"elite" Exterminators were given leather (brown) boots.
>
> After the shooting of the stone head landing and vomiting up guns (filmed at a
place called the Sally Gap in the Wicklow Hills outside Dublin), the masks were
repainted red.
>
> I got this info from Tony Pratt himself.
>

Cool!

It's funny how "happy accidents" can transform the mythology of a film...



--- In zardozthemovie@yahoogroups.com, "vzd963" <vzd963@...> wrote:
>
> When Tony Pratt took over as designer of "Zardoz" (from writer/designer Bill
Stair, who had found the pressure too much for him), he designed the
Exterminators to be all in grey - so the masks were vacu-formed in grey plastic.
After shooting a test, it was decided that the Exterminators blended into the
background too much, so they were given red costumes (the boots were made of
stiff sail-cloth), and the masks were painted white. Sean Connery and the
"elite" Exterminators were given leather (brown) boots.
>
> After the shooting of the stone head landing and vomiting up guns (filmed at a
place called the Sally Gap in the Wicklow Hills outside Dublin), the masks were
repainted red.
>
> I got this info from Tony Pratt himself.
>

When Tony Pratt took over as designer of "Zardoz" (from writer/designer Bill
Stair, who had found the pressure too much for him), he designed the
Exterminators to be all in grey - so the masks were vacu-formed in grey plastic.
After shooting a test, it was decided that the Exterminators blended into the
background too much, so they were given red costumes (the boots were made of
stiff sail-cloth), and the masks were painted white. Sean Connery and the
"elite" Exterminators were given leather (brown) boots.

After the shooting of the stone head landing and vomiting up guns (filmed at a
place called the Sally Gap in the Wicklow Hills outside Dublin), the masks were
repainted red.

I got this info from Tony Pratt himself.

ZARDOOOOOOOOOOOOOZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!

Join the discussions.

T.C.

I know this message is off-topic, but please allow it for your members
sake.

Not to frighten anyone, but if you see that this is even remotely
possible, you may wish to get yourself prepared ahead of time.

I sure will.

http://www.theamericannightmare.org/FOOD_SHORTAGE__AAK.html

Mary

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and new actors/characters as well.
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Thanks!

Hello Alfonso,

>
>   I didn`t hear about the Aeon Flux TV series. I've seen the
poster of the movie somewhere but I didn`t know that it was a film
with content. I thoght it was another action film full of explosions
an nothing more but your advice changes all.


The MTV cartoon series is an alternative piece-of-art, very
tantalizing and mind-blowing, but less "ZARDOZ-ish" than the movie
adaptation.
Granted, the movie is FULL of explosions and silly fights, but also
offers some interesting similarities with ZARDOZ plotwise - in some
departments, the heroine (Aeon Flux) looks like Zed's female
counterpart. So see the movie, just for the guilty pleasure too see
some ZARDOZ-ish touches here and there.



>   I think you`ve watched the film "Children of Men" last year.
It`s my favourite sci-fi movie of the last times. It looks like the
70s films with Charlton Heston ("Planet of the Apes", "The Omega
Man", "Soylent Green") and the plausible air of the film "On the
Beach" (with Gregory Peck, Ava Gardner, Fred Astaire and Anthony
Perkins) but introducing an optimistic message that remains a very
good taste after the spectacle.

Good to know... are they already filming a sequel?


>   See you.

OK!


>
>
>   Tiziano <apecalypsenow@...> escribió:
>           "he film takes place 400 years into a post-apocalyptic
future, after
> a virus has wiped out ninety-nine percent of the Earth's 2011
> population. The survivors inhabit Bregna, a walled city-state,
which
> is ruled by a congress of scientists. Ĉon Flux is an assassin-
member
> of the 'Monicans', an underground rebel organization led by The
> Handler. When Ĉon is sent on a mission to kill the government's
> leader, Trevor Goodchild (Marton Csokas), she uncovers that she is
> the unwitting part of a secret coup. This discovery brings into
> question the origin and destiny of everyone in Bregna; and in
> particular, Ĉon's personal connection to the man she has been sent
> to assassinate.
>
> The film incorporates numerous elements from episodes of the TV
> series, most notably the episode "A Last Time For Everything," as
> well as from Ĉon Flux: the Herodotus File, a graphic novel that
was
> based upon the series."
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
> LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo.
> Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto.
> http://es.voice.yahoo.com
>

"he film takes place 400 years into a post-apocalyptic future, after
a virus has wiped out ninety-nine percent of the Earth's 2011
population. The survivors inhabit Bregna, a walled city-state, which
is ruled by a congress of scientists. Ĉon Flux is an assassin-member
of the 'Monicans', an underground rebel organization led by The
Handler. When Ĉon is sent on a mission to kill the government's
leader, Trevor Goodchild (Marton Csokas), she uncovers that she is
the unwitting part of a secret coup. This discovery brings into
question the origin and destiny of everyone in Bregna; and in
particular, Ĉon's personal connection to the man she has been sent
to assassinate.

The film incorporates numerous elements from episodes of the TV
series, most notably the episode "A Last Time For Everything," as
well as from Ĉon Flux: the Herodotus File, a graphic novel that was
based upon the series."

hello

 

the film is about the science fiction civilization in which mankind is forced to survive, it's about reality (or its absence), and remember: Zardoz the movie is  part, a product of that science fiction, its purpose it to show us the way out of cinemas and cities, to show us that science and technology are meaningless and dangerous, and that we should connect to nature as soon as possible.
 

On 3/23/07, Alfonso Mu˙fffff1oz <vorticecuatro@yahoo.es> wrote:

Hello to the entirely population of the Vortex:

 

I'm Arthur Frayn, a new member of your group. I'm a fan of these, my favourite movie, since many years but I never take contact before with a group because of the language. I write you from Spain, so, I need time to understand all the content of the messages.

 

I have not much time now because I'm at work but I´ll write soon.

 

I want to give regards to all of you because of your film taste.

 

I want you to remember that I'm invented four your entertainment and amusement.

 

Ciao.

---

LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo.
Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto.
http://es.voice.yahoo.com

"he film takes place 400 years into a post-apocalyptic future, after
a virus has wiped out ninety-nine percent of the Earth's 2011
population. The survivors inhabit Bregna, a walled city-state, which
is ruled by a congress of scientists. Ĉon Flux is an assassin-member
of the 'Monicans', an underground rebel organization led by The
Handler. When Ĉon is sent on a mission to kill the government's
leader, Trevor Goodchild (Marton Csokas), she uncovers that she is
the unwitting part of a secret coup. This discovery brings into
question the origin and destiny of everyone in Bregna; and in
particular, Ĉon's personal connection to the man she has been sent
to assassinate.

The film incorporates numerous elements from episodes of the TV
series, most notably the episode "A Last Time For Everything," as
well as from Ĉon Flux: the Herodotus File, a graphic novel that was
based upon the series."

Alfonso, you're well welcomed !!!

--- In zardozthemovie@yahoogroups.com, Alfonso Mu˙fffff1oz
<vorticecuatro@...> wrote:
>
> Hello to the entirely population of the Vortex:
>
>   I'm Arthur Frayn, a new member of your group. I'm a fan of
these, my favourite movie, since many years but I never take contact
before with a group because of the language. I write you from Spain,
so, I need time to understand all the content of the messages.
>
>   I have not much time now because I'm at work but I´ll write soon.
>
>   I want to give regards to all of you because of your film taste.
>
>   I want you to remember that I'm invented four your entertainment
and amusement.
>
>   Ciao.
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
> LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo.
> Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto.
> http://es.voice.yahoo.com
>

Unlike Ellison's computer in "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream", Tabernacle
is quite benign.  Tabernacle has been programmed to preserve the Eternals at
all costs.  Tabernacle is not torturing the Eternals, they are their own
worst enemy.  They hate each other because of their long confinement
together.  They are bored because they absolutley lack vision and purpose
(entirely the fault of the ancient designers of the Vortex).   With their
technology they have nothing to fear from the outside any more.  The
apocalypse is long past and they don't need to huddle ina shelter from
ravening masses of people.  They could easily begin expanding the Vortex,
reclaiming the world, taming the pockets of Brutals. . .but they do not.
This is one of the brilliant messages in the film.
Boorman was making a statement about the emptiness of elitism.  Those with
the wealth and power often don't deserve it and often do little with it.  Of
course I'm generalizing, there many great philanthropists out there
today...but think of Boorman traveling to Hollywood and seeing all these
rich and powerful people completely absorbed in vanity/sensuality
(immortality), mystical movements (second-level meditation), and the very
hollow and ultimatley trivial entertainment business (The constant reviewing
and cataloguing of Tabernacle's information).
Tabernacle actually allows itself to be disabled by Zed because it seems to
sense that Zed is capable to do the one thing it cannot do itself: end the
meaningless misery of the Eternals.
As for Frayne, I see him not as a great liberator, but really as merely a
troublemaker.  He's the rich child so spoiled and bored only recklesslness
and agitation can amuse him.  He begins breeding superior beings among the
Brutals to agitate.



>From: "patrickmichaeltilton" <patrickmichaeltilton@...>
>Reply-To: zardozthemovie@yahoogroups.com
>To: zardozthemovie@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [zardozthemovie] Re: What Frayn wanted
>Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 00:23:45 -0000
>
>Compare the Tabernacle in "ZARDOZ" to the computer that is the enemy
>of the leftovers of Mankind in Harlan Ellison's story "I HAVE NO
>MOUTH AND I MUST SCREAM". The computer(s) didn't create themselves;
>MAN created them, and their creations enslaved them... virtually
>annihilating them as a "lesser" type of being. In "ZARDOZ" the
>Tabernacle keeps the Eternals in a state of stasis, really, except
>for those whom they punish (the Renegades, doomed to senility) and
>those who are subject to the 'disease' of Apathy. Ultimately, the
>penalties are for Individuality as opposed to the Group-Mind 'ideal'
>that is enforced via the Second Level Meditation and all that.
>Imagine being forced to mind-meld with a group of people you've come
>to despise on the subconscious level... trying to keep your gut-level
>hatreds buried, but failing as they make their way into your
>conscious mind -- and then the all-knowing Tabernacle (by the consent
>of the Group) punishes you for thoughts you can't help having,
>hatreds you can't help feeling. Like that poor schmuck George Seden,
>who tries feebly to defend himself from the charges against him, then
>allows himself a moment of defiance... all, ultimately, doing him no
>good whatsoever.
>
>Trapped in the hellish pseudo-utopia that is the Vortex, they need an
>outside influence -- a "noble savage" -- to rescue them. Because of
>their superiority complex, they feel they have the right to "control"
>the outlands... and they delegate the job to Arthur Frayn, the only
>Eternal who WANTED to deal with it. While out on his own (and
>ostensibly not ENTIRELY under the supervision of the Tabernacle), he
>concocts the 'Zardoz' religion as part of an attempt to breed the
>Bringer of Death who could ultimately fulfill their deep-seated
>deathwish. As the creator of a religion -- a FALSE religion (as I
>think all religions are, and as I suspect Boorman probably believed
>when he came up with the story) -- Frayn did what every other major
>religion has done: he instilled within that religion's followers an
>intrinsic hatred of their own nature. The "penis-is-evil" mantra
>supports this horrific notion that human nature is essentially
>corrupt, that Man is "filth" which "poisons the Earth". That Man is
>deserving of death. As a result, the only way to put that religion
>into practise is to separate out an "elite" who would then be used to
>wage genocide on the rest -- at least, killing the males, so that
>they could have the females to themselves (only the Exterminators
>could breed).
>
>How is it that the Eternals (i.e. Frayn, working on their behalf)
>could do that to the so-called "Brutals"? The Eternals, deep down in
>their subconscious minds, HATE their own fellow Eternals, and have
>had to suppress it into their darkest depths of their subconscious
>minds -- creating an "Id monster" like in "FORBIDDEN PLANET" where
>there hadn't been one before. They hate each other... they hate
>themselves... so it's no wonder that they have at least as low an
>opinion (if not lower) regarding the Brutals. They have no pity for
>them (or, with few exceptions, most of them don't). The suffering of
>the Brutals has become mere "entertainment" to them.
>
>Boorman's message -- especially if you listen to the commentary on
>the DVD -- is that Religion is a sham, and that it is a force which
>is ultimately destructive to the human race. In time, the "noble
>savage" -- the TRUE human -- will rebel against the inhuman force
>that preaches about Man being a creature of "sin" who deserves to be
>punished by a "god" -- paid the "wages" of sin: Death. When Zed
>destroys the Tabernacle from within -- finding the "flaw in the
>crystal" -- it is the first step towards Man's triumph against the
>anti-human institution of Religion. Zed is a sort of "antichrist" in
>that he brings the gift of Death to people who cannot otherwise die,
>the inverse paradigm of Christ bringing the gift of Eternal Life to
>people who otherwise cannot live forever. The Eternals, after only a
>couple centuries of "eternal" life, can't STAND living anymore; it
>isn't in their nature -- in Man's nature -- to live forever.
>Spiritually, we NEED to complete the cycle of Life, and Death is the
>completion of it. We aren't cut out for eternal life, and those who
>are afraid of Death, of dying, and who think that they'd like to live
>forever, are probably fooling themselves. When you've read every book
>there is to read... seen every movie there is to see... had every
>sort of conversation there is to have with everybody else who -- like
>you -- is living forever... eventually, you will run out of the will
>to live.
>
>And Zed help you if you are FORCED to keep on living an unbearable
>life!
>
>Patrick
>_______________________________________________________________
>
>--- In zardozthemovie@yahoogroups.com, "Tiziano" <apecalypsenow@...>
>wrote:
> >
> > I think Frayn didn't give a shit about evolution. He KNEW -
> > or "SENSED" - tha only a super-human being could have helped the
> > ETERNALS to escape from their endless state.
> > The main problem was the TABERNACLE. Frayn was conscious that EVEN
> > an Eternal wasn't able to defeat the Tabernacle. Eternals were
> > puppets in the "almost-blind" and "automatic" head of the
> > Tabernacle, so to speak.
> >
> > So, he chose to "generate" a super-human being (or "to design him
>by
> > inbreeding", if you want) because only having access to the full
> > potential of human being could have led to the annihilation of the
> > Tabernacle.
> >
> > He wasn't an evolutionary, a scientist. That's why the drawnings in
> > his house were so POOR... I mean "elementary". He was more an
>artist
> > and a self-teached science man. His biggest skill was intuition.
> >
> > (and Zed saw even more than that behind his actions... GOD?)
> >
> >
> > T.C.
> >
> > --- In zardozthemovie@yahoogroups.com, Worov@ wrote:
> > >
> > > <<<Frayne's method . . .was a personal project and not the norm
> > across the
> > > vortex system>>>
> > >
> > > Absolutely agree with that one which is, as you demonstrate with
> > your
> > > quotes, precisely what's communicated by the film. Though I think
> > you'll agree  we
> > > may extrapolate (thanks to the film's purely visual narrative and
> > the story's
> > > various implications, not to mention what we learn of Arthur's
> > individual
> > > personality) that he also had something extra in mind. I don't
> > know if it's the
> > > precise bloodbath that ends the film. But remember he begins it
>by
> > saying, " .
> > > .  . I long for death, but death is no longer possible." He also
> > wistfully
> > > berates  Zed, after being shot and floating out of the head, in
> > something like
> > > this wise:  "I could have shown you."
> > >
> > > So Arthur's up to something more than just a simple breeding
> > scheme, I'd  say.
> > >
> >
>
>

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Z-MEN,

I need the attention of those provided with a good DVD support and a
copy of 'ZARDOZ'.

The EXTERMINATORS seem to have two "esthetical" modes, two slightly
different outfits each from other:

1- RED MASK and BLACK BOOTS.
2- WHITE MASK and RED BOOTS.

I don't know why. It's my suspect that they usually wear the first
outfit (RED/BLACK) when hunting the Brutals, while prefer the
second, cleaner outfit (WHITE/RED) to celebrate ZARDOZ's periodical
coming (as seen in the beginning of the movie) or just when they are
in "stand-by".

What do you think about it? Can you RE-WATCH every scene involving
the EXTERMINATORS in order to fully "grasp" the sequences and the
meaning of the slightly different outfits.

Many thanks in advance,


T.C.

John,

The voices are frightening... they are like a "passage" to penetrate
Zardoz's dimension even better and further. Haunting atmosphere. I
couldn't have said it better.

T.C.


--- In zardozthemovie@yahoogroups.com, "Morgan, John" <jbmorgan@...>
wrote:
>
> "Zardoz" made me fall in love with Beethoven's 7th, but I
particularly
> love the vocal arrangement of the second movement that is used
during
> the opening credits. The piece is extremely haunting to begin
with, but
> the voices make it even more so. As far as I know, the arrangement
must
> have been created for the film, as I've never heard of it anywhere
else.
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: zardozthemovie@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:zardozthemovie@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tiziano
> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 9:23 AM
> To: zardozthemovie@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [zardozthemovie] Re: Use of music in Zardoz
>
>
>
> Improvist, I absolutely agree with you... the music plays a lead
> character in this fantastic, brilliant cinematic "piece of art",
and
> the 7th symphony fits in the greater scheme of the things as
Beethoven
> would have composed the music ONLY with 'ZARDOZ' in mind.
>
> Great thread, everyone should feel free to add 2 cents, too.
>
> T.C.
>

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   o Kill your ZARDOZ.
   o Is this Yahoo Group in the showbusiness too?
   o Time to Exterminate!
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Lousie,

We're waiting for it!

T.C.


--- In zardozthemovie@yahoogroups.com, Kim Erik Monberg
<zardoznb@...> wrote:
>
> I would contact Christel Kruse Boorman who was the costumier on
the movie.
>
> Louise Martin <lou_martin68@...>
skrev:
> Hi,
>   Does anyone have any links or resources that may better
>   describe the female (and male) headdress. Im particularly
>   interested in any sewing plan if available.
>
>   See attachment of headress.
>
>   Yours,
>   Louise
>
>
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Improvist, I absolutely agree with you... the music plays a lead
character in this fantastic, brilliant cinematic "piece of art", and
the 7th symphony fits in the greater scheme of the things as Beethoven
would have composed the music ONLY with 'ZARDOZ' in mind.

Great thread, everyone should feel free to add 2 cents, too.

T.C.





--- In zardozthemovie@yahoogroups.com, "improvist_evan"
<improvist_evan@...> wrote:
>
> In the final scene, with the massacre and Zed/Consuela growing old
> together, the music is from the second movement of Beethoven's 7th
> symphony.  I think it worked really well.  I have heard that a
movie's
> music can be described as a separate "character" that can drive the
> movie's actions, and using that particular bit of music was really
> effective in conveying the emotion of the scene.  If anybody else has
> anything to say about the music in Zardoz, feel free to post a reply
here.
>

Compare the Tabernacle in "ZARDOZ" to the computer that is the enemy
of the leftovers of Mankind in Harlan Ellison's story "I HAVE NO
MOUTH AND I MUST SCREAM". The computer(s) didn't create themselves;
MAN created them, and their creations enslaved them... virtually
annihilating them as a "lesser" type of being. In "ZARDOZ" the
Tabernacle keeps the Eternals in a state of stasis, really, except
for those whom they punish (the Renegades, doomed to senility) and
those who are subject to the 'disease' of Apathy. Ultimately, the
penalties are for Individuality as opposed to the Group-Mind 'ideal'
that is enforced via the Second Level Meditation and all that.
Imagine being forced to mind-meld with a group of people you've come
to despise on the subconscious level... trying to keep your gut-level
hatreds buried, but failing as they make their way into your
conscious mind -- and then the all-knowing Tabernacle (by the consent
of the Group) punishes you for thoughts you can't help having,
hatreds you can't help feeling. Like that poor schmuck George Seden,
who tries feebly to defend himself from the charges against him, then
allows himself a moment of defiance... all, ultimately, doing him no
good whatsoever.

Trapped in the hellish pseudo-utopia that is the Vortex, they need an
outside influence -- a "noble savage" -- to rescue them. Because of
their superiority complex, they feel they have the right to "control"
the outlands... and they delegate the job to Arthur Frayn, the only
Eternal who WANTED to deal with it. While out on his own (and
ostensibly not ENTIRELY under the supervision of the Tabernacle), he
concocts the 'Zardoz' religion as part of an attempt to breed the
Bringer of Death who could ultimately fulfill their deep-seated
deathwish. As the creator of a religion -- a FALSE religion (as I
think all religions are, and as I suspect Boorman probably believed
when he came up with the story) -- Frayn did what every other major
religion has done: he instilled within that religion's followers an
intrinsic hatred of their own nature. The "penis-is-evil" mantra
supports this horrific notion that human nature is essentially
corrupt, that Man is "filth" which "poisons the Earth". That Man is
deserving of death. As a result, the only way to put that religion
into practise is to separate out an "elite" who would then be used to
wage genocide on the rest -- at least, killing the males, so that
they could have the females to themselves (only the Exterminators
could breed).

How is it that the Eternals (i.e. Frayn, working on their behalf)
could do that to the so-called "Brutals"? The Eternals, deep down in
their subconscious minds, HATE their own fellow Eternals, and have
had to suppress it into their darkest depths of their subconscious
minds -- creating an "Id monster" like in "FORBIDDEN PLANET" where
there hadn't been one before. They hate each other... they hate
themselves... so it's no wonder that they have at least as low an
opinion (if not lower) regarding the Brutals. They have no pity for
them (or, with few exceptions, most of them don't). The suffering of
the Brutals has become mere "entertainment" to them.

Boorman's message -- especially if you listen to the commentary on
the DVD -- is that Religion is a sham, and that it is a force which
is ultimately destructive to the human race. In time, the "noble
savage" -- the TRUE human -- will rebel against the inhuman force
that preaches about Man being a creature of "sin" who deserves to be
punished by a "god" -- paid the "wages" of sin: Death. When Zed
destroys the Tabernacle from within -- finding the "flaw in the
crystal" -- it is the first step towards Man's triumph against the
anti-human institution of Religion. Zed is a sort of "antichrist" in
that he brings the gift of Death to people who cannot otherwise die,
the inverse paradigm of Christ bringing the gift of Eternal Life to
people who otherwise cannot live forever. The Eternals, after only a
couple centuries of "eternal" life, can't STAND living anymore; it
isn't in their nature -- in Man's nature -- to live forever.
Spiritually, we NEED to complete the cycle of Life, and Death is the
completion of it. We aren't cut out for eternal life, and those who
are afraid of Death, of dying, and who think that they'd like to live
forever, are probably fooling themselves. When you've read every book
there is to read... seen every movie there is to see... had every
sort of conversation there is to have with everybody else who -- like
you -- is living forever... eventually, you will run out of the will
to live.

And Zed help you if you are FORCED to keep on living an unbearable
life!

Patrick
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--- In zardozthemovie@yahoogroups.com, "Tiziano" <apecalypsenow@...>
wrote:
>
> I think Frayn didn't give a shit about evolution. He KNEW -
> or "SENSED" - tha only a super-human being could have helped the
> ETERNALS to escape from their endless state.
> The main problem was the TABERNACLE. Frayn was conscious that EVEN
> an Eternal wasn't able to defeat the Tabernacle. Eternals were
> puppets in the "almost-blind" and "automatic" head of the
> Tabernacle, so to speak.
>
> So, he chose to "generate" a super-human being (or "to design him
by
> inbreeding", if you want) because only having access to the full
> potential of human being could have led to the annihilation of the
> Tabernacle.
>
> He wasn't an evolutionary, a scientist. That's why the drawnings in
> his house were so POOR... I mean "elementary". He was more an
artist
> and a self-teached science man. His biggest skill was intuition.
>
> (and Zed saw even more than that behind his actions... GOD?)
>
>
> T.C.
>
> --- In zardozthemovie@yahoogroups.com, Worov@ wrote:
> >
> > <<<Frayne's method . . .was a personal project and not the norm
> across the
> > vortex system>>>
> >
> > Absolutely agree with that one which is, as you demonstrate with
> your
> > quotes, precisely what's communicated by the film. Though I think
> you'll agree  we
> > may extrapolate (thanks to the film's purely visual narrative and
> the story's
> > various implications, not to mention what we learn of Arthur's
> individual
> > personality) that he also had something extra in mind. I don't
> know if it's the
> > precise bloodbath that ends the film. But remember he begins it
by
> saying, " .
> > .  . I long for death, but death is no longer possible." He also
> wistfully
> > berates  Zed, after being shot and floating out of the head, in
> something like
> > this wise:  "I could have shown you."
> >
> > So Arthur's up to something more than just a simple breeding
> scheme, I'd  say.
> >
>

In the final scene, with the massacre and Zed/Consuela growing old
together, the music is from the second movement of Beethoven's 7th
symphony.  I think it worked really well.  I have heard that a movie's
music can be described as a separate "character" that can drive the
movie's actions, and using that particular bit of music was really
effective in conveying the emotion of the scene.  If anybody else has
anything to say about the music in Zardoz, feel free to post a reply here.

Hi,

Does anyone have any links or resources that may better

describe the female (and male) headdress. Im particularly

interested in any sewing plan if available.

 

See attachment of headress.

 

Yours,

Louise 

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