> Maybe, but I wonder. Natural selection, seems to me, would have
handled the
> worst of those for him. The brutals' world is pretty . . . well,
BRUTAL! It
> wouldn't take long for most genetic cripples to expire on their
own.
Agreed, natural selection seems to be spontaneous, and we're talking
about a world ravaged by a bacteriological war. That's not a joke.
Environmental damage was consistent to the point the world of the
Brutals is... "brutal".
> Well, that's a backstory the film never gives us. But I don't see
your idea
> as far fetched and, frankly, it would make Zed a much more
interesting
> character.
In the end, I think ZED is a second generation Exterminator.
His "grandfather" was a brutal, but his "father" was an Exterminator.
> Well, but there'd still have to be an "apprenticship" period as
Frayn (or
> perhaps the Exterminators themselves) evaluated potential young
brutal males
> before letting them in "the club."
2 years, maybe. And I see it like a too-stretched lapse of time,
figure it out!
> They wouldn't have this, however, if "fresh" DNA were introduced
to "water down"
> the flaws.
GREAT INSIGHT! I never thought about it.
On a side not, in the script ZED is referred as "2030". I heavily
doubt the Exterminators were more than 2000 at that time, or that
there was been more than 2000 Exterminators in LESS than 200 years.
I agree with Patrick Tilton on this, Zed was the "2030"th product of
the in-breeding agenda, involving Brutals and Exterminators.
It seems like ZED COULD BE the SPAWN of an EXTERMINATOR and a BRUTAL WOMAN, kinda of. I think that's how Arthur Frayn basically operated his schedule of...
<<<Does this make sense to you?>>> It sounds a pretty reasonable approximation of what Frayn must have had in mind, and what probably went on. Though never...
Scroll down, MUTANTS! it's also a good bet ... eliminate any ... (i.e. those ... objectives), if ... I think that they were principally RAISED in the culture...
... If one takes the whole idea of evolutionary pressure applied by predation, there's a sort of backdoor eugenics going on through Frayn's implementation of...
<<<Frayn was scared about malformations>>> Maybe, but I wonder. Natural selection, seems to me, would have handled the worst of those for him. The brutals'...
... handled the ... BRUTAL! It ... own. Agreed, natural selection seems to be spontaneous, and we're talking about a world ravaged by a bacteriological war....
Hey wait a minuet can I throw in somethin? If you have these master killing machines (Exterminators) for 200 years doing nothing but killing any Brutal that...
... Of course you can! That's *OUR* group. ... Exactly. They kill only certain types of Brutals, the ones that Arthur Frayn suggests them to kill... it's a...
... This is an excellent question, as I think when watching the film that while this particular Vortex is broken and killed, there are other Vortices out...
... it's replicated in each one, or ... his PARTICULAR Vortex, his ... That rises ONE MORE question, the most important one in my agenda! Is Frayn supposed to...
... He'd really have to be, since we never actually see any Exterminator WOMEN at any point. Not that they don't exist -- if Zardoz/Frayn was really serious...
The "Penis is evil" chant is just a way like another to keep the Exterminators' sexual hormones "quiet" for a while. Overpopulation was the very first REASON...
It has always been my impression that Frayn'es breeding program was an abberration--his own personal experiment that later became his obsession: namely to...
<<<Frayne's method . . .was a personal project and not the norm across the vortex system>>> Absolutely agree with that one which is, as you demonstrate with...
I think Frayn didn't give a shit about evolution. He KNEW - or "SENSED" - tha only a super-human being could have helped the ETERNALS to escape from their...
<<<He wasn't an evolutionary, a scientist.>>> True, but then neither are most dog, cat, and horse breeders who nonetheless fully understand and exploit the...
Compare the Tabernacle in "ZARDOZ" to the computer that is the enemy of the leftovers of Mankind in Harlan Ellison's story "I HAVE NO MOUTH AND I MUST SCREAM"....
Unlike Ellison's computer in "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream", Tabernacle is quite benign. Tabernacle has been programmed to preserve the Eternals at all...