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--- Strider Elfstone <strider1201@...>
wrote:

> Well, if I KNEW it, obviously I'd be a bit
> annoyed by the whole thing. I'd swallow the
> pill faster than I could blink. But what's
> really the difference between reality and the
> perception of reality? If I perceive my
> choices to be basically free, then they are
> bascially free to me. Now, if I get
> information that says I've been plugged in to a
> giant computer my whole life...then I have to
> reevaluate.
>
> Descartes would say that the fact that we can
> even wonder whether we are plugged into the
> matrix indicates that we're not. Nice to know.
>
> Strider
>
> Harvey Beard <ibis_9@...> wrote:
> I think I understand your argument
> that it
> doesn't matter; this is especially the case
> seeing that one may only know of one reality.
> But...I believe if a world has been constructed
> for us, 'free will' goes out the window. To me,
> freedom of choice would be more accurate. I
> don't
> want to get too technical here but
> satisfaction,
> albeit temporary, can be attained through the
> consumption of chemicals or maybe even RF
> waves.
> How would you feel if you were aware that some
> cabal (or network of programs) decided or
> influenced when and where you would experience
> any particular range of human emotion. What if
> you knew that your 'love' and 'satisfaction'
> were
> used as a carrot (lure) to get you to behave in
> accordance to some protocol unbeknownst to you.
> Would 'love' still mean the same thing to you?
> What if your intuition (and observations) said
> somethin' ain't right, regardless of your
> position in Maslow's hierarchy?
> I guess I would just have a problem following
> a white rabbit through a labyrinth or anything
> that thinks itself divine.
>
> Thank you for your input.
>
> --- Strider Elfstone <strider1201@...>
> wrote:
>
> > If we already live in a matrix, if our free
> > will is simply an illusion...it doesn't
> matter.
> > It bears the perception of reality, which is
> > sufficient. It's real to us, so what more can
> > we ask for? We can hardly say more about our
> > own reality, anyway. As long as I really feel
> > love, and I really have some satisfaction
> with
> > my life, details like what I'm plugged into
> are
> > secondary.
> >
> > Strider
> >
> > fifth_letter <ibis_9@...> wrote:
> > What if you do exist in some
> > artificially created matrix? Steven
> > Hawking ("Hawking's plan to offest computer
> > threat to humans"),
> > Theodore 'The Unabomber' Kaczynski
> ("Industrial
> > Society and Its
> > Future"), Kevin Warwick (The Matrix - Our
> > Future?) and many before
> > them have speculated on the possible threat
> of
> > machine consciousness.
> > I am surprised that I have never seen such
> > issues raised in these
> > message boards about 'The Matrix' movie.
> > The Internet or some Singularity could be
> > manipulating human
> > consciousness via electronic (wireless RF, of
> > course) signals to the
> > brain right now
> >
>
(http://www.surveillanceissues.com/default.htm).
> > Who
> > needs an army of Terminator robots! Or is it
> > already too late.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > True love is never selfish, and will die if
> it
> > is not fed by thoughtfulness, courtesy,
> > kindness, and work.
> > -Billy Graham
> >
> >
> >
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