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Re: Of Kong & Man!

Welcome to our little corner of monster-based cyberspace!

We are a very spurt-ish group here for the most part. No activity for
lengths of time, then a flurry for a short bit, then back to flatline
for days (usually weeks)... but that's okay. This is, after all, a
hobby, not an obsession or way of life. At least for me. The other
regulars here can (and do!) speak up for themselves.

I liked the recent PJ film, but felt it was WAY over-hyped. In many
ways, it has as many flaws as the '76 version. What it lacks in some
areas, it makes up for with the over-the-top CGI battles and a
truer-to-the-'33 original plotline. But then even that isn't all it's
cracked up to be.

The decision to adapt the story to fit the times in the DeLaurentis
version was well done - in its way. It turned off and just plain
outraged a LOT of die-hards of the '33 film, simply because they felt
it was sacreligious to muck with (and steer so far from) the original.
Perhaps, but PJ took many liberties of his own. Several of which I
would have steered clear of. For instance, the pit sequence was
simply Jackson's hard-on "dream" sequence that he and other
Kong-crazed fanboys had openly pined for ad nauseum in the '33
version. Jackson was so obsessed with the 'lost' spider pit sequence
in the original that he and his posse at WETA painstakingly re-created
the entire thing from scratch in old-skool stop-motion! Now that's
obsessed! But what the hey, if you have the time, talent, and
money... why not?? Then he re-did and over-the-top filmed a new
variation for his remake and got to keep it in, (and even expand on it
in the
"Director's Cut" version of the DVD). He got to finally have his cake
and eat it, too.

But you know what? I honestly think the original editors/censors were
right: The sequence IS an un-necessary show-stopper. It does
absolutely nothing to advance the main narrative. It's just there
because PJ insisted on it and the studio had given him carte blanche
with his remake. Moreover, it's just plain gross.

I honestly like the '76 Kong. Sure, its got plenty of faults. But it
never claimed to be perfect. Actually, if Dino had released the film
without all of his typical assinine overblown showmanship b.s.
tactics, it might have been far more well-recieved. Or maybe not.
We'll never know. Certainly would've been more fun if he'd just
thrown in some dinosaurs. The T-Rex suit used in Richard Boone's "The
Last Dinosaur" would've been a good match, if it just had a few tweaks
and additional musculature padding here and there. Not convincing
really, but then neither was that goofy giant rattlesnake. ;)

Now if someone would get on the ball and get a remake of King
Kong vs. Godzilla going!

-JN




Wed May 16, 2007 11:50 pm

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I took the liberty of posting a link to a new group which would be grateful for support and input. So come on you sons of Kong ..help yourself to the brides...
Sue
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Feb 2, 2006
9:53 am

I felt I should post again on this group as the activity seems to have slowed for some reason, and what members require from a group is always of interest...
Sue
sue_0770
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Mar 19, 2006
1:17 pm

Things get quiet in all the Yahoo groups from time to time. This group in particular has a spotty history of activity. To answer your excellent question, I...
ripjagger
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Mar 19, 2006
1:22 pm

Hi Dean. My first encounter with Kong was seeing the '33 original on TV when I was in my early teens. I remember thinking it was quite scary in parts, but oh...
Sue
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Mar 19, 2006
9:28 pm

I don't think guys fantasize about being Kong, but I do think Kong represents for Ann the ultimate "badboy", the guy who doesn't comply with the decourm of...
ripjagger
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Mar 21, 2006
2:17 pm

Hi gang! I haven't been here in a while, and saw the most recent few posts. Good question Sue. My first exposure to Kong was the '76 remake. My late father...
jinzo_ningen
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Mar 24, 2006
1:19 pm

I really liked the '76 version too. It was a slightly different take on the Kong story that worked well enough for me, and I think Jessica Lange's heroine...
Sue
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Mar 25, 2006
7:36 pm

... He also gets killed. I tend to think that Kong represents a number of things, but there are very few points in the film where anyone identifies with Kong...
jfglade
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Apr 3, 2006
4:19 pm

Over the course of my life, I'd have to say I have identified with Kong, Godzilla and nearly every other "monster" to some degree. Seeing the orginal Kong, it...
agentkjj005
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Apr 4, 2006
10:27 am

... Am I the only one who remembers the scene in the original film where Kong climbs a building, reaches in through a window, grabs a woman who bears a slight...
jfglade
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Apr 4, 2006
8:46 pm

... for ... where ... train ... before ... gone ... for ... naturally ... Point well made and taken. Kong is not "cuddly", but I still feel sympathy for...
agentkjj005
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Apr 4, 2006
10:55 pm

I think (ok I'm guessing) what Sue meant in her question was that do some men think it is cool to be really in physical control of a woman the way that King...
Sally
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Apr 6, 2006
7:45 am

Wow, I guess I'd never seen Kong as such an extention of a male's desire to "control" a female, but now that you mention it, I can see a new aspect to the...
agentkjj005
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Apr 6, 2006
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... see ... one ... the "prized ... have ... days ... A very good point Agent! I was trying to be a little mischievious in what I said to open up the debate a...
Sally
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Apr 7, 2006
7:03 am

I'm really taken with the current thread about Kong's portraying a man's desire to control a woman. I think it's in there myself. Just look at the role of Ann...
ripjagger
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Apr 7, 2006
12:48 pm

... creature, ... much ... much ... of ... I wasn't thinking that my question would be taken quite so literally, I meant it more of a size fetish fun idea. And...
Sue
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Apr 10, 2006
11:13 pm

Hiya, I only got a real taste of King Kong from the hype of the most recent offering! Though due to that I watched the original, which was on the TV...
abzfilm
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May 16, 2007
10:23 pm

Hello, Just thought I'd say hi as a new member and contribute to the recent 2 threads! I must admit hadn't seen any of the Kong movies until the release of ...
abzfilm
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May 16, 2007
10:23 pm

Welcome to our little corner of monster-based cyberspace! We are a very spurt-ish group here for the most part. No activity for lengths of time, then a flurry...
jinzo_ningen
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May 16, 2007
11:52 pm

I concur that Peter Jackson's remake has a lot of wonderful imagery, but ultimately fails as storytelling because of a near complete collapse of pacing. And...
ripjagger
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Jun 17, 2007
10:49 am

You hit on the key dichotomy in the film. Kong is a beast, a killer, a monster in every real sense of the word. But he's also possessed of something that...
ripjagger
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