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Re: Of Kong & Man!

Hiya,
I only got a real taste of King Kong from the hype of the most recent
offering! Though due to that I watched the original, which was on the
TV pre-opening wkend and thought it was great! Though the TV times
said the 76 version wasn't so endearing...is it really that bad?

Couple of weeks later I watched the new one and was also
impressed...maybe I'm just fickle...or maybe I'm simple? I must admit
there appears to be a trend towards longer films atm - Lord of the
Rings being one...do for example kids have the stamina to watch 3hr
films these days... evidently so!

I agree that some scenes were drawn out, they should have
concentrated on the simple things, but I guess they can't rely on the
original too much! Most remakes can never outdo the original,
sometimes simply because it's first!

Though I didn't have any nostalgia for the original, but still
thought it was great! Saw past the baby sfx, though impressed by much
of it! The new one is definitely aesthetically amazing! I think to
make up for the beastliness of the original, he was certainly
softened up and the emotional link between woman and beast possible
overjustified? Quite amusing seeing her juggle in front of a huge
ape...when apes can be a the circus animal...dont u think?

Does it play into the recent masculinity crisis? Showing the ape as
testosterone filled, but still sensitive, that he has no place in the
modern world? Then I guess remakes, just as sequels need to move with
the times?

What do you guys think?

Abz (a pondering young lady)

--- In sonsofkong@yahoogroups.com, "Sue" <sue_0770@...> wrote:
>
> --- In sonsofkong@yahoogroups.com, "ripjagger" <ripjagger@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm really taken with the current thread about Kong's portraying
a
> > man's desire to control a woman. I think it's in there myself.
Just
> > look at the role of Ann Darrow on the ship, she's a singular
> creature,
> > a woman who Driscoll firsts dismisses then seeks to win over as
his
> > attitudes are transformed. Likewise Ann "wins" over Kong, but to
> much
> > less success for obvious reasons. One place the DeLaurentis
remake
> > gets clunky is in playing a bit too openly with the sexual
> > undercurrent between Dwan and Kong, it's not a theme that needs
> much
> > comment, but doubtless is there. Kong is an aspect of man, not
all
> of
> > him, and that's why he's unable to fit in the NYC setting. Don't
> > forget that "Beauty killed the Beast" after all.
> >
> > Dean:)
>
> I wasn't thinking that my question would be taken quite so
literally,
> I meant it more of a size fetish fun idea.
> And yes, beauty unwittingly plays a part in killing the beast and I
> wouldn't want that to happen to you guys.
>





Wed May 16, 2007 12:12 am

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I took the liberty of posting a link to a new group which would be grateful for support and input. So come on you sons of Kong ..help yourself to the brides...
Sue
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Feb 2, 2006
9:53 am

I felt I should post again on this group as the activity seems to have slowed for some reason, and what members require from a group is always of interest...
Sue
sue_0770
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Mar 19, 2006
1:17 pm

Things get quiet in all the Yahoo groups from time to time. This group in particular has a spotty history of activity. To answer your excellent question, I...
ripjagger
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Mar 19, 2006
1:22 pm

Hi Dean. My first encounter with Kong was seeing the '33 original on TV when I was in my early teens. I remember thinking it was quite scary in parts, but oh...
Sue
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Mar 19, 2006
9:28 pm

I don't think guys fantasize about being Kong, but I do think Kong represents for Ann the ultimate "badboy", the guy who doesn't comply with the decourm of...
ripjagger
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Mar 21, 2006
2:17 pm

Hi gang! I haven't been here in a while, and saw the most recent few posts. Good question Sue. My first exposure to Kong was the '76 remake. My late father...
jinzo_ningen
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Mar 24, 2006
1:19 pm

I really liked the '76 version too. It was a slightly different take on the Kong story that worked well enough for me, and I think Jessica Lange's heroine...
Sue
sue_0770
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Mar 25, 2006
7:36 pm

... He also gets killed. I tend to think that Kong represents a number of things, but there are very few points in the film where anyone identifies with Kong...
jfglade
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Apr 3, 2006
4:19 pm

Over the course of my life, I'd have to say I have identified with Kong, Godzilla and nearly every other "monster" to some degree. Seeing the orginal Kong, it...
agentkjj005
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Apr 4, 2006
10:27 am

... Am I the only one who remembers the scene in the original film where Kong climbs a building, reaches in through a window, grabs a woman who bears a slight...
jfglade
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Apr 4, 2006
8:46 pm

... for ... where ... train ... before ... gone ... for ... naturally ... Point well made and taken. Kong is not "cuddly", but I still feel sympathy for...
agentkjj005
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Apr 4, 2006
10:55 pm

I think (ok I'm guessing) what Sue meant in her question was that do some men think it is cool to be really in physical control of a woman the way that King...
Sally
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Apr 6, 2006
7:45 am

Wow, I guess I'd never seen Kong as such an extention of a male's desire to "control" a female, but now that you mention it, I can see a new aspect to the...
agentkjj005
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Apr 6, 2006
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... see ... one ... the "prized ... have ... days ... A very good point Agent! I was trying to be a little mischievious in what I said to open up the debate a...
Sally
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Apr 7, 2006
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I'm really taken with the current thread about Kong's portraying a man's desire to control a woman. I think it's in there myself. Just look at the role of Ann...
ripjagger
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Apr 7, 2006
12:48 pm

... creature, ... much ... much ... of ... I wasn't thinking that my question would be taken quite so literally, I meant it more of a size fetish fun idea. And...
Sue
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Apr 10, 2006
11:13 pm

Hiya, I only got a real taste of King Kong from the hype of the most recent offering! Though due to that I watched the original, which was on the TV...
abzfilm
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May 16, 2007
10:23 pm

Hello, Just thought I'd say hi as a new member and contribute to the recent 2 threads! I must admit hadn't seen any of the Kong movies until the release of ...
abzfilm
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May 16, 2007
10:23 pm

Welcome to our little corner of monster-based cyberspace! We are a very spurt-ish group here for the most part. No activity for lengths of time, then a flurry...
jinzo_ningen
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May 16, 2007
11:52 pm

I concur that Peter Jackson's remake has a lot of wonderful imagery, but ultimately fails as storytelling because of a near complete collapse of pacing. And...
ripjagger
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Jun 17, 2007
10:49 am

You hit on the key dichotomy in the film. Kong is a beast, a killer, a monster in every real sense of the word. But he's also possessed of something that...
ripjagger
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