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Re: Scouting in Bandon-questions and concerns from Lisa Byrne   Message List  
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Re: [sofat] RE: Scouting in Bandon-questions and concerns from Lisa Byrne


Lisa,

I know that this was directed to Gary but it seems as if you're also looking to
generate some discussion on the list and, since I'm on the SOFaT board, I
thought I'd weigh in with my thoughts.

If members want to organize something between themselves for any sort of job,
and they can make it work between themselves, that's fantastic. However, I do
think that is something that should be done between members, not as a function
of the organization.

There are all sorts of problems that could arise from SOFaT stepping in. What if
some people have personalities or styles that don't mesh, and the group
fractures? How would SOFaT "assign" a job to one group or another group? That's
a reason to be sure to have updated member resume information on your
www.filmsouthernoregon.org profile. Make yourself a strong candidate. The
producer, not anyone here, makes the call as to who gets hired. That way, no one
can claim someone in SOFaT is playing favorites, and no one feels slighted by
another SOFaT member if they don't get hired. While we promote ourselves as a
group, who gets the job is based on each individual's merits.

This is an industry group, and there's bound to be competition. If I were you,
Lisa, or anyone in your situation, I'd keep that in mind when discussing
strategy and plans for specific jobs. I do think it is possible to have friendly
competition and still work together for the betterment of the group as a whole.
I've scouted locations only for unpaid, independent projects, so I don't feel I
can speak specifically to the benefits of having more than one person on a paid
scouting job. If I were a trained location scout and thought I could handle the
job on my own, I'd be mighty tempted to want all of the money for myself.

I sympathize with the frustration you seem to be feeling about having your name
out there and not knowing who you're in competition against or the likely
outcome. I've been in the same situation through SOFaT, and I do believe the
current process is the best one for all involved. I didn't get the job, by the
way, but I don't resent whoever did get it. I don't know who did, but I'd gladly
shake the person's hand and offer congratulations and good luck. I'm honored to
be part of an organization of professionals who have the ability to get the job
over me, and I look forward to being around them and learning from them. More
work for one can lead to more work for all, especially if I can prove myself in
the next situation.

I think quality work from everyone will best represent SOFaT, along with
cooperation on those efforts we can work on together. Even without job groups,
there is still much work to be done to make SOFaT the best it can be, from
finishing and distributing brochures to keeping our event calendar full and
exciting.

See you Tuesday!
Patricia Snyder


--- On Sun, 7/5/09, Lisa Byrne <lisabbyrne@...> wrote:
From: Lisa Byrne <lisabbyrne@...>
Subject: [sofat] RE: Scouting in Bandon-questions and concerns from Lisa Byrne
To: "Gary Kout" <gary@...>, sofat@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 2:33 AM


Gary,
Re: potential Bandon location scouting, a brief e-mail. After an inquiry to
members was sent via group messages, I responded on the message board along with
others. The return response -a blind email-instructs me that I am one of several
on a list given to an un-named NYC production company, who may or may not call.
Now I have a few questions:

This week I'm attending a member social event with people I may now be
potentially bidding against (or who may potentially bid against me) for
something we've already discussed together. Can we continue to openly talk about
this (potential job) now?
Honestly I'd prefer maintaining (a decent amount) of clarity and congeniality
while creating income and interacting with other members. Is anyone interested
in a discussion about pooling resources for scouting trips & a planing some
scenarios ahead of time? My participation in meetings leads me to believe that
proactive and collaborative participation from members on many levels will help
generate sustainable income for ourselves and our region. Ultimately I hope we
(SOFAT) members will strive to provide 100% quality/satisfactio n to this and
every other potential production, but I also think we should plan for it to
happen.

Sincerely and Lovingly,

Lisa Byrne






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Gary, Re: potential Bandon location scouting, a brief e-mail. After an inquiry to members was sent via group messages, I responded on the message board along...
Lisa Byrne
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Lisa, I know that this was directed to Gary but it seems as if you're also looking to generate some discussion on the list and, since I'm on the SOFaT board, I...
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Patricia, Thank you. This was my first occasion as a SOAFT member to respond to a general job inquiry on the group message board-and then to ask questions...
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