--- In smallgauge@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Kreines <jeffkreines@...>
wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 19, 2008, at 11:06 PM, m6 wrote:
> >
> > have you films on youtube, please?
>
> Just say no, Bill!

oops - i said the wrong thing? :-o

>
> >
> > been marvelling and scratching my head at optical prints for
> > several years. Then someone pointed me in the direction of a ciné
> > book by Denys Davis (1960), which shows how to transform a
projector
> > into an optical printer
> >
> > then you basically double thread the projector with processed and
un-
> > or part-processed film, to effect the optical print?
>
> Sounds to me like he's making a contact printer out of a projector.

this is the information in a book which i was directed to, about a
month ago: i now have the book, and it illustrates a projector being
loaded from two separate reels

> Lenny Lipton's book shows how Robert Nelson made an optical
printer
> (which uses a camera and a projector movement) to rephotograph the
> image -- which is much more versatile and doesn't require
lightproofing.

this sounds very useful - with thanks :)

>
> Since you have this newfangled interweb, google "optical printer"
and
> you'll get a lot of information.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_printer is one of them.

thanks again - i googled that page last night, but came away from it
basically none the wiser

>
>
> >
> > looks like the heck of a job - light-proofing an entire
projector -
>
> No need.

this is music to my ears

> > and *Standard 8* is presumably the best gauge to use (=open
spools) -
>
> Actually that would be difficult because standard 8 is slit in 1/2
> after shooting. 16mm or 35mm makes more sense, even when working
> from small gauge originals.

now, here is a problem - i work exclusively in 8mm

>
> > but i'd quite like to have a go at it?
>
> You can find coops that have optical printers (JKs usually)
available
> for very expense.
>
> Good luck!
>

bests :)

the only lab i know this side of the pond is
<http://www.nowhere-lab.org/>
they only optical print 8mm onto 16mm, for about $100 (£55) one
session; accordingly, it's no practical use to me, because i want to
experiment with 8mm to 8mm. Many thanks again for the additional
information ;)

Ric