Hello guys and gals,

       "We expected something anew out of SHANKAR. The
sets, the tunes and beats were really new but really
not the story"

       As they really say there seems to be real
paucity of stories. Here the very old suffering and
winning (but how MANI and K.B. are doing the magic.
God knows). " In VANAME ELLAI of K.B. the
characterisation is really great.
       But here the characterisation lacks depth(I
think so).

        "A guy studying college (even a child will not
do)  will never run naked on the roads (if he is
sane). I pray to god that the fever should not catch
our guys in college. See LOVE SCENES can be given a
new turn or polish. But I was not able to digest this
turn as it gave a heavy sprain to my nerves".

       Really Shankars films provide new avenues for
aspirations and film itself is an inspiration. After
"Indian" there were some killings in that style ( I
heard it) .Just see the Impact. Really everyone was
happy to see the C.M. in Mudhalvan. So the second half
of BOYS was great in that way . But the first half
  See, everone wish to see their dreams come to life in
movies but why the darker or black part of man.

       " I think the scene etching out the boys'
integrity and manicured mental decorum even in the
presence of a whore is creating negative impact and is
obscene. It is not conveying the right message"

       The film may catch the real picture of guys and
students but Man of Shnakr sir's caliber can do a lot
of good to film industry and his producer even without
those first few scenes.

Thank you.


Sundar





--- sharath kumar <sharath_gaddameedi@...>
wrote:
> hi
>
>    i watche BOYS here in melbourne in a THEATER...!
> it was really a nice movie..! the cinemtography was
> excellent by RAVICHANDRAN.
>
> i don't know why people are criticising
> shankar....really he had done a great job...one can
> not make everytime a MUDALVAN or GENTLEMAN..!
>
> movies have to made with different ideas...! what do
> u say?
>
> has main sir put any name to his forth coming movie
> in HINDI?
>
> today i watched KAKA KAKA . it was aslo a good
> movie....GAUTAM once again proved his talent...!
>
> screenpaly and the cameraman work were great...!
>
> ok keep intouch..!
>
>
> bye
> sharath kumar. g
> melbourne
> australia
>
> Manickam <manickam_sp21@...> wrote:
> Hai Sarath!
>
> This is Manickam. I m frm Tamilnadu and working here
> in Bangalore
> for a software firm.
>
> The BOYS directed by shankar and starred by asst.
> director of Mani
> is a good movie. It picturises the youth generation.
>
> Hpe u wll also enjoy that.
>
>
> With Luv - Manickam.
>
> On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 sharath kumar wrote :
> >hi
> >
> >  i joined mani sir's group  just few days ago...!
> >
> >i am die hard fan of mani sir..! presently i am
> doing MIT in
> >melbourne,australia.
> >
> >i already did MBA in INDIA...the reason for doing
> MBA was mani
> >sir.....his  influence was like that on me..!
> >
> >i watched GEETANJALI nearly 60 times.....! there
> were times when
> >i used to watch it twice a day..!
> >
> >i think there is some mysterical thing about that
> movie..!
> >
> >i watch a lot of tamil movies..can anybody suggest
> any new movies
> >to me?which are worth watching
> >
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Hai Sarath!

This is Manickam. I m frm Tamilnadu and working here in Bangalore
for a software firm.

The BOYS directed by shankar and starred by asst. director of Mani
is a good movie. It picturises the youth generation.

Hpe u wll also enjoy that.


With Luv - Manickam.

On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 sharath kumar wrote :
>hi
>
>  i joined mani sir's group  just few days ago...!
>
>i am die hard fan of mani sir..! presently i am doing MIT in
>melbourne,australia.
>
>i already did MBA in INDIA...the reason for doing MBA was mani
>sir.....his  influence was like that on me..!
>
>i watched GEETANJALI nearly 60 times.....! there were times when
>i used to watch it twice a day..!
>
>i think there is some mysterical thing about that movie..!
>
>i watch a lot of tamil movies..can anybody suggest any new movies
>to me?which are worth watching
>
>bye
>sharath kumar
>MELBOURNE
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ok! i am happy to see so many mani fans around, although i still walk
around in the belief that i am his greatest fan :-)

> I think Agni Natchathiram & Idhayathai Thirudaathey ran only for
> 2.15 min. All other films didnt exceed the time limit 2.30 min.
>(except Thalapathi??)

hmm.. thiruda thiruda & iruvar were longer than 150 mins. i think
iruvar would have clocked just less than 180 mins.

yes mani's movie does leave a lot unsaid in the hope that , whats
unsaid might be noticed more. But i personally beleive, mani is yet
to master that art. There needs to be clarity even when you are
implying something. I dont think our ma is there yet.

The scene in srilanka that you menationed was a good example. But in
a straightforward screenplay like KM, the bombing scene was all of a
sudden chaotic. Although i did notice that there were 2 maangulams
etc, i thought that scene could have been much more clearer.

Another example that comes to mind is the scene right b4 the
songs 'thee thee' in thiruda thiruda. prashant is actually chatting
with anu agarwal and the song happens with heera in it. Its actually
logical because anu agarwal is asking him who his sweetheart is and
this song is his answer. but somehow it wasnt clearly said.

and another thing while on thiruda thiruda ( one of my favs).. most
of the punch dialogues in TT were at the end of a scene and with the
tight editing they had done to reduce screen time, the effect of
dialogues was greatly reduced and sometimes even missed.

-bharath
p.s: just noticed that i had written only nitpicks abt manis movies.
but thats okay.. someother mail maybe..:-)

Hi

How about a crack that gets you into a wacky situation...get going!!!

Dear God:

Yesterday was an awful day for me...

My husband ran off with his secretary,

My son pierced his eyebrow,

My daughter tattooed the bald spot on her head,

My dog mated with the neighbors cat,

My neighbor sold her house to a mental institution,

My Mom told me I was adopted,

My Dad told me he's gay,

My boss told me I was laid off,

My sister was arrested for prostitution,

My house has termites,

My car was stolen,

All that came in the mail was bills,

A plane, crash landed on my garage,

OJ Simpson came to my door selling rug cleaner,

And my TV blew.

Lord, please be with me today.

I was able to live through all that misery yesterday.

And I will be able to make it through anything today! But please....

DON'T LET ANYTHING HAPPEN TO MY COMPUTER!!!!!

AMEN

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hello sir
i dont know whether this mail is checked by mr.maniratnam or not.anyway i
want to convey this message to him.i'm a student of govt.college of
tech,coimbatore studying my 2nd year btech ind.biotech.i'm very much
impressed in his(maniratnam)  direction though i didnt see all his
movies.now i come to the point,i'm very much intersted in acting and
direction.sothat i've a perfect story which would be a feast 4 ur
direction.so plzzz do hear this story.Actually the theme of this story came
in my dream,i told to frnd who has a good knowledge abt arts and movies
,suggested if it come like a movie ,it will be a very good
masterpiece.sothat i wanted to tell u.waiting 4 ur reply,
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Hai Sarath!

This is Manickam. I m frm Tamilnadu and working here in Bangalore
for a software firm.

The BOYS directed by shankar and starred by asst. director of Mani
is a good movie. It picturises the youth generation.

Hpe u wll also enjoy that.


With Luv - Manickam.

On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 sharath kumar wrote :
>hi
>
>  i joined mani sir's group  just few days ago...!
>
>i am die hard fan of mani sir..! presently i am doing MIT in
>melbourne,australia.
>
>i already did MBA in INDIA...the reason for doing MBA was mani
>sir.....his  influence was like that on me..!
>
>i watched GEETANJALI nearly 60 times.....! there were times when
>i used to watch it twice a day..!
>
>i think there is some mysterical thing about that movie..!
>
>i watch a lot of tamil movies..can anybody suggest any new movies
>to me?which are worth watching
>
>bye
>sharath kumar
>MELBOURNE
>
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Hi frnds,

       I read some of the articles regarding mani's new film. Thanx for the sendors. I dont know anything new abt his film. So i am sending this.

 

  Mani's success lies in his 'tight script'. He doesnt allow any unnecessary scenes, even it might have told the detail to 'B' centre ppl. One eg from Kannathil Muthamittaal.....

 

  Madhavan came to Srilanka and was looking for Maangulam Shaama. He found her, but soon after he realised that she was not the one. So he asked Prakash Raj whether thr was anyother Maangulam. He said thr was one more in northern side. In the next few scenes, they went thr. But that Maangulam also had been bombed already. Mani didnt say it was another Maangulam, and didnt show the attack. Only with the scenes itself, he conveyed all these messages, even without dialogues!! He left these things to us to thing how bad the war was.

 

  Like this, he skipped lot of unnecessary scenes in all of his films. I think Agni Natchathiram & Idhayathai Thirudaathey ran only for 2.15 min. All other films didnt exceed the time limit 2.30 min.(except Thalapathi??)

 

ok...bye...

 

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hi guys,

i meant that the kannada movie industry did not respond with
sufficient encouragement, i guess that was the reason mani moved
to tamil industry where new ideas are generally encouraged a
lot.

anand

On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 Sudhir Kishan wrote :
>
>On 'Pallavi Anu Pallavi',
>
> > it is a pity the kannada movie industry did not appreciate and
>recognise such talent.
>
>If i'm not wrong, the movie got a State Award from the Karnataka
>State Government. The movie was later dubbed in Tamil as 'Priya O
>Priya'.
>
>When he approached Balu Mahendra to assist him in making the
>movie, Balu was surprised to know that MR did not have any
>experience in film making, no formal education in film making nor
>did he witness any shooting!! Balu was a well known
>cinematographer at that time.
>
>The story, screenplay and direction for the movie was handled by
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Good day Guys and Gals,
      I am really very happy to join the group. I was
really glad to read the critique of Mr. Bharat.

      "Boys" - The opening scene will really startle
you as the film will go in an alarmed path not
expected of a director of Shankar's Stature. Upto the
break , the film will shake you to pieces as the
director stoops to a low level to get the returns on
every penny spent.


       you will start to think that the success of  III
class films has not spared shankar too. This film has
broken the myth cast by shankar by his earlier films
as it creates an ugly image of college-goers and will
rack the nerves of the parents who drop by for the
movie for sure.

       "In a society of mediocrity, such films which
claims that Dating and lecherous things are good and
correct ( Even though they speak against it hither and
thither , proper empahasis is not laid on it), it can
mislead the society."

       " The westernisation should spare our culture as
it stands for many centuries and it will save our
society of several mal things like adultery and other
sex-driven things"

        The bollywood is treading a path which is
really frightening and Kollywood should not follow
trail. And directors like shankar should not be
instrumental.

       At  last we should never forget the hard work
put in by shankar .--- "The gorgeous sets , Fantastic
camera and Music ".

       "The earth quake scene needs a special mention
."

     There is really a loss of new stories in Tamil .


   Guys as a cinema lover just try to watch malayalam
films . The films are really good .
    ( Iam a Tamil started watching Mallu films "


Bye take care. ----------------------------Sundar


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On 'Pallavi Anu Pallavi',

> it is a pity the kannada movie industry did not appreciate and recognise such talent.

If i'm not wrong, the movie got a State Award from the Karnataka State Government. The movie was later dubbed in Tamil as 'Priya O Priya'.

When he approached Balu Mahendra to assist him in making the movie, Balu was surprised to know that MR did not have any experience in film making, no formal education in film making nor did he witness any shooting!! Balu was a well known cinematographer at that time.

The story, screenplay and direction for the movie was handled by Mani Ratnam.

hi madur,

you are welcome, we all guys share the same passion with regards
to mani's movies. his first movie was in kannada, called 'Pallavi
Anupallavi' with anil kapoor and lakshmi, balu mahendra was the
cinematographer, today we feel it is great movie, the movie is
basically about a young guy's infatuation with an older woman,
brilliantly picturised and great songs, it is a pity the kannada
movie industry did not appreciate and recognise such talent.

I feel even today there is no one who makes movies like him(with
that levels of passion) in kannada.try to see the movie
sometime.Illayaraja's music is great in it.

keep in touch

anand

On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 sherloc' holmes wrote :
>Hi folks,
>I am Pradeep Ramamurthy Durbhakula. I am a new graduate student
>pursuing Master's in Industrial Engineering at Northern Illinois
>University, DeKalb, Illinois.
>
>I am ardent fan of Mani Ratnam. I have been addicted to
>Manirathnam for a long time now, when I saw Mounaragam for the
>first time. And the addiction continued till now.
>
>I feel elated to be a member of this group.
>
>By the way, I am told that Mani Ratnam made his first film in
>Kannada. Do any of us know what the film is and what it's all
>about?
>
>
>With Regards,
>Madur.
>
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hey buddy,
mani's heroines doesnt have glamour?!!!!
his films have given the greatest looks for nearly
every heroines , say simran in kannathil, shobhana in
dalapathi, manisha in dilse & bombay, etc,
what does glamour mean to you, women puttin on bright
makeups, roamin around with virtually no clothes
on?!!!!it isnt the thing yaar, a womans beauty and
sensuality should be seen seperately. mani's doin so
in his creations,atleast he isnt showin women as
meagre sex objcts, to attract masses.


--- Athitha Nadarajan S <yesanplz@...> wrote: >

> hi frnds,
>
>         hereafter nobody can compare Mani with
> Shankar. eventhough his Boys is technically good, it
> lacks in Direction, Screenplay. i was searching for
> Shankar in the first half. If u have any idea to
> watch the film, better go after the first 1 hour. i
> think he cant give films with reality or originality
> like our mani. and also some vulgar scenes in Boys
> make him far apart from mani. In mani's movies, he
> shows heroine with no glamour. but  Shankar is not
> like that.
>
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>
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Its not the mediocrity of the final few scenes that make you wanna
throw up after seeing "Boys". After all, every character in this
movies throws up atleast once, so they must've figured the audience
should get a chance during the climax. People walked out of the
theatre tip-toe'ing through imaginary barf, much the way the girls
tip-toe'd thorugh imaginary 'jollu' of the boys in the opening
scenes.


I was hoping the song picturization, for which shankar was known
for, would sort of make up for the poor movie. But I was
dissapointed, the CGI girl in 'girlfriend' looked really cheap to
start with but What passed of as special effects in the song 'Ale
Ale' was dreadful, shankr could have as well displayed a board
saying " now special effects would be shown please clap".
The 'bullet time' scenes are blatantly shown  like item pieces
without even a pretense of subtelity. By the time the CGI in the
final stanzas of "boom boom" is shown, one was left almost praying
this would be the last of so-called special effects.

The power of suggestion lies in what is left unsaid, rather than
what is said. It is the possibilities and what is implied, that is
usually more fascination that whats openly stated. Shankar does not
believe in these ideals. He is obvious. Does FX for the sake of it,
purely because its expected from him. All the adult jokes and
references that fill the first hald look strained and are there for
the purpose of sensationalism. You can almost feel him trying to
draw mileage on every paisa spent.

Shankar fails not just in the climax but throughout the movie where
he has failed to comeup with a even single new idea or concept. The
whole movie is a cliched rehash of old concepts and movies. Shankar
is typically not a director who specializes in subtelities, like a
manirathnam or KB. He is obvious & blunt, he adds commerical
elements to a very good story and belives this is necessary to make
a hit movie. Unfortunately in this movie the 'very good story' is
amiss. His strength is forceful narration based on relevant social
issues. His movie pattern is usually a fictional & dramatic story
based around real life events. A fictional & dramatic 'indian
thatha' & 'one day CM' fighting real life social issues like
corruption, illustrate the case in point. But those were novel
concepts built on a very good premise & backed up by excellent
scripts. 'Boys' on the other hand is defined in the last courtroom
scene, which has the most cliched scenes in cinema history happening
in a real looking court. Solomon Papiyah as the judge validates the
farce. You might as well have put in V.S.Raghavan as the judge and
have Gopalakirshnan banging the desk saying "objection me lord'.

Going into the details and logic of the story is a waste. There is
nothing new and there are no surprises. In the interval if you
think " i hope it picks in the 2nd half instead of becoming a
formula movie" be prepared for a huge let down. Boys at best is
a 'C' center movie made for front bench audience. If the college
going audience, whom the movie clearly targets, were warming up
hoping for a great second half, they would be dissapointed. I did
not believ it was a shankar movie, looked like some 'pattikadu' guy
put this movie together after seeing 2 MTV videos and a couple of
english movies.

The toilet scenes in the jail remind me of the collosal man story.
there was this colossal man 100 times the size of regular men. He
decided to treat himself for a grand 6 course meal. A few hours
after the meal he did a collosal dump. He named that collosal
dump "Boys".

-Bharath

Hai Everybody
    I am D.Gopinath, 21, doing my BE, and a great fan of Maniratnam.
I am very happy that I have become a member of this group.
I have come to know a lot through this group.
I have also come to know about you fans of Mani.
I hope I can share information about Mani with you.

As far as Maniratnam is concerned, I will only say one thing that
he is second to none in this world, not even to Steven Spielberg, in
the world, and that I am proud to live in the era in which Mani is
making movies.
Hope to communicate more about him with you all.

Hai All,


    I am Mathew. My greatest abbition is
to become a film director. I am Post
Graduate in Computer Apllications.
I do not know  How I should begin
in film field.

   I am from Kerala. My greatest wish is
to become an assistant director under
Mani Ratnam.

   Any body know how to contact Him?
Any body know how his Email address?
Please mail me at

mathaicollins@...

Hai Everybody,
I am D.Gopinath,21,doing my BE at PSG Tech,Coimbatore.
First of all I want to tell you that I feel great to
be part of this great group of a Great Director.
I hope to exchange all information regarding him with
you all.
As far as Mani is concerned, I can only say that he is
one of the best Directors in the world and that I am
proud to live in an era in which Maniratnam is making
movies.
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hi frnds,

        hereafter nobody can compare Mani with Shankar. eventhough his Boys is technically good, it lacks in Direction, Screenplay. i was searching for Shankar in the first half. If u have any idea to watch the film, better go after the first 1 hour. i think he cant give films with reality or originality like our mani. and also some vulgar scenes in Boys make him far apart from mani. In mani's movies, he shows heroine with no glamour. but  Shankar is not like that.

Regards,

Athi

B +Ve

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