>> Yes. Velcome, Velcome (oh God, sombody please stop me)
>
>viddy well, viddy well...
>
>; )
>
>
>bfn,
>JDL


I'm truly sorry :) But everyone with a DVD player has to pick up the new
Dracula DVD. My God what a great DVD transfer, which includes Philip Glass'
new DD 5.1 score and it's fucking amazing if you have a DD reciever and some
good surrounds. I bid you all, good evening.....

:)=     <---------Check out my fangs dude....

I recall hearing rumors that ERASERHEAD would be released on DVD early on
2000. Can anyone confirm or deny this??? Also, while we're on the subject,
am I accurate in my belief that DUNE is the only Lynch film out on DVD???
Will there be more? Will it be soon? What of the Twin Peaks series on DVD?
What of the 3 hour and 40 minute version of FIRE WALK WITH ME on DVD??? This
brings to mind more questions...anyone know if Lynch will ever get to do
DREAM OF THE BOVINE, RONNIE ROCKET, or ONE SALIVA BUBBLE? Or does anyone know
what Lynch's next project might be??? How about Mulholland Drive? Or the project
DRIVEN TO IT where Lynch supposedly co-directed with Robert Bauer III (Johnny
Horne from TP)??? And back to the DVD topic, does anyone know if EYES WIDE SHUT
will EVER be coming out on DVD??? If anyone can shed some light in any of these
areas, it would be most appreciated.

jm01 wrote:

> Yes and a standard or regular lens for a 35mm motion picture camera is an
> anamorfic lens. If the fil is shot with a cropped veiw it is matted. Meaning
> literally that a matt box or "slide" is place in front of the negative plane
> in the camera. So yes, something is deffinately matted.
>
> Jmo

no it isn't.
there is no "standard" lens for 35mm cameras. I just used a Panavision Panaflex
Gold
and we used
a 14mm lens and a 25mm lens. NOT anamorphic at all. We did the matting
after-the-fact
on an avid 9000.
however, when you shoot anamorphic, there is no matting. The wide image is
"squeezed"
onto a FULL
FRAME of film. Some pan and scam videos show this squeezed image for things like
opening and closing
credits. there is no cropping in this case. the entire 1.33:1 frame of film is
exposed
and contains an image.

--
      Ike


      "Sometimes--well, let's say all times--things are changing.  We
      are judged as human beings on how we treat our fellow human beings.
      How do you treat your fellow human beings?  At night, just before
      sleep, as you lay by yourself in the dark, how do you feel about
      yourself?  Are you proud of your behavior?  Are you ashamed of
      your behavior?  You know in your heart if you have hurt someone--
      you know.  If you have hurt someone, don't wait another day before
      making things right.  The world could break apart with sadness
      in the meantime."

      -Margaret Lanterman

>I recall hearing rumors that ERASERHEAD would be released on DVD early on
>2000. Can anyone confirm or deny this???

I hadn't heard this rumor but it isn't true.

>Also, while we're on the subject,
>am I accurate in my belief that DUNE is the only Lynch film out on DVD???


Lynch FILM, yes. The Lynch documentary Pretty as a Picture is out on DVD, as
well as his short film for Lumiere on the Lumiere DVD.

>Will there be more? Will it be soon? What of the Twin Peaks series on DVD?


Blue Velvet, Straight Story are both in the works. No Twin Peaks.


>What of the 3 hour and 40 minute version of FIRE WALK WITH ME on DVD???

Fughet about it....

This brings to mind more questions...anyone know if Lynch will ever get to
do
>DREAM OF THE BOVINE, RONNIE ROCKET, or ONE SALIVA BUBBLE?

I highly doubt if he does ever get the opportunity to make one or all of
these films it will be anytime soon. If the Straight Story get a couple of
Acadamy Awards there would be a much better chance, but it's looking grim
right now. A couple of nominations would also help.


>Or does anyone know
>what Lynch's next project might be???

Haven't heard.

> How about Mulholland Drive?

Dead in the water.


>Or the project
>DRIVEN TO IT where Lynch supposedly co-directed with Robert Bauer III
(Johnny
>Horne from TP)??? And back to the DVD topic, does anyone know if EYES WIDE
SHUT
>will EVER be coming out on DVD??? If anyone can shed some light in any of
these areas, >it would be most appreciated.


Haven't heard anything about either one. Sorry.

I think you are mistaken about the Twin Peaks series, Jonny.  Mike reported
in July from the VSDA that "Artisan confirmed that Twin Peaks, the series,
will probably be released in 2000 as a DVD-18 (dual-layer, double-sided)
set."  Was there recent information that I missed that dismisses that?

~Brian
The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in a time of moral
crisis, maintain their neutrality.  -Dante


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 1:17 PM
To: lynch-list@onelist.com
Subject: Re: [lynch-list] DVD...


From: "jonny angel" <jcolburn@...>


>I recall hearing rumors that ERASERHEAD would be released on DVD early on
>2000. Can anyone confirm or deny this???

I hadn't heard this rumor but it isn't true.

>Also, while we're on the subject,
>am I accurate in my belief that DUNE is the only Lynch film out on DVD???


Lynch FILM, yes. The Lynch documentary Pretty as a Picture is out on DVD, as
well as his short film for Lumiere on the Lumiere DVD.

>Will there be more? Will it be soon? What of the Twin Peaks series on DVD?


Blue Velvet, Straight Story are both in the works. No Twin Peaks.


>What of the 3 hour and 40 minute version of FIRE WALK WITH ME on DVD???

Fughet about it....

This brings to mind more questions...anyone know if Lynch will ever get to
do
>DREAM OF THE BOVINE, RONNIE ROCKET, or ONE SALIVA BUBBLE?

I highly doubt if he does ever get the opportunity to make one or all of
these films it will be anytime soon. If the Straight Story get a couple of
Acadamy Awards there would be a much better chance, but it's looking grim
right now. A couple of nominations would also help.


>Or does anyone know
>what Lynch's next project might be???

Haven't heard.

> How about Mulholland Drive?

Dead in the water.


>Or the project
>DRIVEN TO IT where Lynch supposedly co-directed with Robert Bauer III
(Johnny
>Horne from TP)??? And back to the DVD topic, does anyone know if EYES WIDE
SHUT
>will EVER be coming out on DVD??? If anyone can shed some light in any of
these areas, >it would be most appreciated.


Haven't heard anything about either one. Sorry.

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>We did the matting after-the-fact on an avid 9000.

So how are the newer avid's? My best friends girlfriend (it's hard to say
that without hearing the Cars) used to work for them about 6 years ago so I
got to go play on quite a few of them. Very impressive.

ja

>It gets confusing, because this whole thing of aspect ratios is
complicated.<

Boy, you got that right.  I just spent a couple of hours at dvdresource.com
reading stuff on this topic, trying to make some sense of it and ya know
what?  I think I'll just leave this one for the experts and buy the movies I
like.

Tom

> -----Original Message-----
> From: CBHalo@... [SMTP:CBHalo@...]
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 9:11 PM
> To: lynch-list@...
> Subject: Re: lynch-list: A technical question
>
>
> In a message dated 12/20/99 3:35:02 PM, WRHEA@... writes:
>
> << So my question is:  what's the
> difference between "matted" widescreen and normal widescreen and is this
> matted version really the original aspect ratio even though it fills up my
> tv screen? >>
>
>     It gets confusing, because this whole thing of aspect ratios is
> complicated.  Basically, matted widescreen means that, to preserve the
> film
> image as it appeared in the theater, they actually block off a bit at the
> top
> and bottom.  With a lot of movies that are transferred to video, generally
>
> the ones that are shown at 1.85 to 1, you're seeing *more* top and bottom
> in
> the video than what was shown theatrically and you're missing nothing off
> the
> sides.  What you've got to look out for are films that were shot in the
> very
> wide cinemascope 2.35 to 1 ratio.  Those are the ones that get panned and
> scanned and fucked up when they aren't letterboxed.
>
>     Where Kubrick is concerned, he actually preferred the 1.66 to 1 ratio,
>
> which is close to the dimensions of the standard TV screen.  Only
> "Spartacus"
> and "2001" were shot for cinemascope.  Also, I understand Kubrick approved
>
> all the transfers of his films for DVD before he died, and actually
> requested
> that "Full Metal Jacket" and "The Shining" be formatted to fill the TV
> screen.  Again, you aren't missing much if anything on the sides and are
> seeing a bit more top & bottom than was shown in theaters.
>
>     Garry
>
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I know that the RONNIE ROCKET script is floating about the web
somewhere, but does anyone know if the DREAM OF THE BOVINE script
is out in circulation? How (if at all possible) can one get a hold
of this script??? I sure wish someone would let Lynch do that film.
It sounded absolutely brilliant!

"The Straight Story" finished 24th in its tenth weekend with a gross of
$183,363, up 26 percent from the previous weekend.  Number of theatres
increased by 19 to 159.  Average per theatre was $1,153.  Cume is $3,811,480.

In total revenue, "The Straight Story" is still behind "Lost Highway", which
finished behind "Twin Peaks:  Fire Walk With Me", which finished behind "Wild
At Heart."  Maybe the award nominations will help break the downward trend.

<jm01@...> writes:

> I was just wondering if anyone else thinks Sheryl Lee and her acting
> abilities ain't all that? I recently watched the entire TP series and I
> came to  this conclusion based on the fact that she calls out her lines
> in verbatum(sp?) She seems to be uncomfortable or out of place and
> not deep into the character. I don't know just over all I wasn't to
> impressed with her performance in TP.

whatever her shortcomings are in the series (remember, originally she was
only supposed to be a dead body with NO lines) i feel that Lee erased them
ALL with her impressive performance in FWWM. she shows an incredible range
of emotion in that film that is powerful to watch. her character is
dragged through the emotional ringer and you can see Lee giving it all
she's got in that film. it's a shame that she has never been able to equal
that performance since. other than serving as lovely eye candy, she was
completely wasted in VAMPIRES.


bfn,
JDL

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jonny angel wrote:

> From: "jonny angel" <jcolburn@...>
>
> >We did the matting after-the-fact on an avid 9000.
>
> So how are the newer avid's? My best friends girlfriend (it's hard to say
> that without hearing the Cars) used to work for them about 6 years ago so I
> got to go play on quite a few of them. Very impressive.
>
> ja
>

Pretty damn nice!
Do you remember which ones you got to try out? The 9000 has some very nice
features.
More layers of both audio and video, not to mention the better resolution of
AVR 77 compression.
I'd like to get my hands on the newer Avid Symphony. It's an NT platform, and
if I'm not
mistaken, it supports uncompressed video.

Did anyone read that Mary Sweeney interview that I was online awhile back? I'll
try and find the URL.
Anyway, TSS was edited on AVID, although she didn't mention what model. Wonder
how David felt about
that? I know in Lynch on Lynch he says he hates the avid. But perhaps they used
an uncompressed format?

      Ike


      "Sometimes--well, let's say all times--things are changing.  We
      are judged as human beings on how we treat our fellow human beings.
      How do you treat your fellow human beings?  At night, just before
      sleep, as you lay by yourself in the dark, how do you feel about
      yourself?  Are you proud of your behavior?  Are you ashamed of
      your behavior?  You know in your heart if you have hurt someone--
      you know.  If you have hurt someone, don't wait another day before
      making things right.  The world could break apart with sadness
      in the meantime."

      -Margaret Lanterman

<gciani@...> writes:

> I recall hearing rumors that ERASERHEAD would be released on
> DVD early on 2000. Can anyone confirm or deny this???

according to www.dvdfile.com:

"The status of Eraserhead is an interesting situation. I received word
from Criterion in the past that they are planning a special edition DVD.
However, I then received an email from David Lynch's official site that
the rights have not been sold to anyone for the film as of yet (Mr. Lynch
apparently owns it himself). Thus at this point, nothing is set."


> Will there be more? Will it be soon?

from www.dvdfile.com:

"As mentioned at Studio Day '99, Blue Velvet is now owned by MGM after
being controlled by Warner for its previous U.S. video incarnations. In
good news, MGM plan on releasing it in 2000 with a new transfer (it was
recently re-released on VHS by MGM last month). No word yet on features,
but hopefully it will deliver on the bottom line, in the audio and video
departments.

"Wild At Heart is another recent MGM acquiree. Previously announced by
both Anchor Bay and Elite Entertainment (for any DVD or Laserdisc release,
respectively), their rights have now expired. An email I received from MGM
just yesterday states that though Blue Velvet is on the way, there are
still no plans as of now for Wild At Heart. There is a Region 2
non-anamorphic misframed DVD out from Denon/Toshiba, but it apparently is
pretty terrible...

"The Elephant Man remains one of the director's most accessible works,
especially for those off-put by the unconventional story structures that
Lynch often plays with. This a Paramount title, but as of this writing,
they expressed no plans for any DVD release. Note, however, that there is
a anamorphic 2.35:1 DVD from Pioneer out in Region 2 that apparently looks
great. Wish there was more news on this one for the U.S., though, as it is
a personal favorite."


> What of the 3 hour and 40 minute version of FIRE WALK WITH
> ME on DVD???

again, www.dvdfile.com:

"Now onto the world of Twin Peaks. New Line expressed a hoped-for mid-2000
release at Studio Day '99 for Fire Walk With Me. However, and Mr. Lynch's
public comments bear this out, there is simply no mythical "director's
cut" of the film. Elements are being looked over now, so if any new edits
are ever made, it will be with the involvement of David Lynch only."


> And back to the DVD topic, does anyone know if EYES WIDE SHUT
> will EVER be coming out on DVD???

the only info i was able to find was this:  "Though no set date is yet set
for Eyes Wide Shut, per Stanley Kubrick's express instruction, it will be
full frame only."


bfn,
JDL

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hello all

>Yes and a standard or regular lens for a 35mm motion picture camera is an

When I say standard or regular I'm referring to the particular lens that
recreates the image to it's real form. Meaning there is no bowwing or
stretching of the image like you see with wide angle lenses and so on.

If the fil is shot with a cropped veiw it is matted. Meaning
> > literally that a matt box or "slide" is place in front of the negative
plane
> > in the camera. So yes, something is deffinately matted

Not all films are shot on a Panaflex camera and not all films are shot for a
theater screen or video. In some cases a matte card is placed on the
negative plane for a cetain dimention. It's not real common, but it does
happen.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ike" <goat@...>
To: <lynch-list@...>
Cc: "New Lynch List" <lynch-list@onelist.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 2:12 PM
Subject: [lynch-list] Re: lynch-list: A technical question


> From: Ike <goat@...>
>
>
>
> jm01 wrote:
>
> > Yes and a standard or regular lens for a 35mm motion picture camera is
an
> > anamorfic lens. If the fil is shot with a cropped veiw it is matted.
Meaning
> > literally that a matt box or "slide" is place in front of the negative
plane
> > in the camera. So yes, something is deffinately matted.
> >
> > Jmo
>
> no it isn't.
> there is no "standard" lens for 35mm cameras. I just used a Panavision
Panaflex Gold
> and we used
> a 14mm lens and a 25mm lens. NOT anamorphic at all. We did the matting
after-the-fact
> on an avid 9000.
> however, when you shoot anamorphic, there is no matting. The wide image is
"squeezed"
> onto a FULL
> FRAME of film. Some pan and scam videos show this squeezed image for
things like
> opening and closing
> credits. there is no cropping in this case. the entire 1.33:1 frame of
film is exposed
> and contains an image.
>
> --
>      Ike
>
>
>      "Sometimes--well, let's say all times--things are changing.  We
>      are judged as human beings on how we treat our fellow human beings.
>      How do you treat your fellow human beings?  At night, just before
>      sleep, as you lay by yourself in the dark, how do you feel about
>      yourself?  Are you proud of your behavior?  Are you ashamed of
>      your behavior?  You know in your heart if you have hurt someone--
>      you know.  If you have hurt someone, don't wait another day before
>      making things right.  The world could break apart with sadness
>      in the meantime."
>
>      -Margaret Lanterman
>
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jm01 wrote:

>
>
> Not all films are shot on a Panaflex camera and not all films are shot for a
> theater screen or video. In some cases a matte card is placed on the
> negative plane for a cetain dimention. It's not real common, but it does
> happen.
>
>

Sure, I realize that. Happens often. All widescreen films are either matted at
the theater or at the
gate of the camera *except* 2.35:1 anamorphic. That's my point.

About EWS, did Kubrick really insist on only a full-frame version on video?
I hope it doesn't reveal any booms or flags or set walls.
(was any of it shot on a soundstage?)

--
      Ike


      "Sometimes--well, let's say all times--things are changing.  We
      are judged as human beings on how we treat our fellow human beings.
      How do you treat your fellow human beings?  At night, just before
      sleep, as you lay by yourself in the dark, how do you feel about
      yourself?  Are you proud of your behavior?  Are you ashamed of
      your behavior?  You know in your heart if you have hurt someone--
      you know.  If you have hurt someone, don't wait another day before
      making things right.  The world could break apart with sadness
      in the meantime."

      -Margaret Lanterman

You know I saw only one production flaw but I wasn't really looking for them.
What I saw was either the audio guy or stedi cam guy in the reflection of those
chrome poles that are attached to the tub. It's the scene in the first of the
film at the party where Tom Cruise helps out his friend by checking to see if
that girl overdosed in the bathroom. I'm sure there where more. I'm still
baffled at why Kubrick would choose to use a 500 speed film for such a great
looking film.

Jmo


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Ike
   To: lynch-list@onelist.com
   Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 10:11 PM
   Subject: Re: [lynch-list] Re: lynch-list: A technical question



   jm01 wrote:


     Not all films are shot on a Panaflex camera and not all films are shot for a
     theater screen or video. In some cases a matte card is placed on the
     negative plane for a cetain dimention. It's not real common, but it does
     happen.



   Sure, I realize that. Happens often. All widescreen films are either matted at
the theater or at the
   gate of the camera *except* 2.35:1 anamorphic. That's my point.
   About EWS, did Kubrick really insist on only a full-frame version on video?
   I hope it doesn't reveal any booms or flags or set walls.
   (was any of it shot on a soundstage?)

   --
        Ike


        "Sometimes--well, let's say all times--things are changing.  We
        are judged as human beings on how we treat our fellow human beings.
        How do you treat your fellow human beings?  At night, just before
        sleep, as you lay by yourself in the dark, how do you feel about
        yourself?  Are you proud of your behavior?  Are you ashamed of
        your behavior?  You know in your heart if you have hurt someone--
        you know.  If you have hurt someone, don't wait another day before
        making things right.  The world could break apart with sadness
        in the meantime."

        -Margaret Lanterman

jm01 wrote:

> You know I saw only one production flaw but I wasn't really looking
> for them. What I saw was either the audio guy or stedi cam guy in the
> reflection of those chrome poles that are attached to the tub. It's
> the scene in the first of the film at the party where Tom Cruise helps
> out his friend by checking to see if that girl overdosed in the
> bathroom. I'm sure there where more. I'm still baffled at why Kubrick
> would choose to use a 500 speed film for such a great looking
> film. Jmo

I liked the way it looked. My understanding was that he intentionally
underexposed and then had the
lab "push" the negative. To give it that grainy look. As far as the soft
"hot spots" anytime a bright light
is in the shot, I have no idea how that was achieved, but I think it
looks beautiful. Maybe
a pro-mist filter or something? I'm just baffled at how you can
underexpose but get a blown-out
"overexposed" look. Hmmm.... Unless that was just a result of the lab's
"pushing". ??
I suppose if they used the t-stop reading of the backlights, then pushed
the negative to meet
the reading of the foreground, the back would appear slightly hot. And a
pro-mist could soften it.

Ahh who cares. It's lovely, just lovely! Even the Christmas tree lights
are soft and fuzzy.

Lynch won Best Director for the San Diego Film Critics Society Awards
yesterday (of which I'm a member of).

Just to note, the picture itself came in 3rd with highest amount of votes,
next to winner American Beauty and runner up Being John Malkovich.

Again, Farnsworth was third, coming in behind Spacey as winner and Crowe as
runner up.

The screenplay was either the third or fourth highest voted on, and Spacek
was unable to make it past the preliminaries.

I pushed for everything SS possible, and although the majority of the
critics truly loved it, they went for the more obvious stuff that will get
it just about everywhere else. I'll be posting the final results soon.

g

Voted on and announced on Monday, December 20, 1999.

Best Film: "American Beauty"
Second place: "Being John Malkovich"

Best Director: David Lynch "The Straight Story"
Second place: Sam Mendes "American Beauty"

Best Actress: Annette Bening "American Beauty"
Second place: Reese Witherspoon "Election"

Best Actor: Kevin Spacey "American Beauty"
Second place: Russell Crowe "The Insider"

Best Supporting Actress: Thora Birch "American Beauty"
Second place: Angelina Jolie "Girl, Interrupted"

Best Supporting Actor: Philip Seymour Hoffman "Flawless"
Second place: Haley Joel Osment "The Sixth Sense"

Best Original Screenplay: Charlie Kaufman "Being John Malkovich"
Second place: Alan Ball "American Beauty"

Best Adapted Screenplay: Alexander Payne & Jim Taylor "Election"
Second place: John Irving "The Cider House Rules"

Best Foreign Film : "Tango"
Second place: "Run Lola Run"

Career Body of Work: Chow Yun-Fat

I'm still baffled at why Kubrick would choose to use a 500 speed film for
such a great looking film.

I loved the grainy quality to the film; I felt it enhanced the dreaminess of
the entire endeavor...

From: "jm01" <jm01@...>
Reply-To: lynch-list@onelist.com
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 21:48:42 -0500
To: <lynch-list@onelist.com>
Subject: Re: [lynch-list] Re: lynch-list: A technical question


You know I saw only one production flaw but I wasn't really looking for
them. What I saw was either the audio guy or stedi cam guy in the reflection
of those chrome poles that are attached to the tub. It's the scene in the
first of the film at the party where Tom Cruise helps out his friend by
checking to see if that girl overdosed in the bathroom. I'm sure there where
more. I'm still baffled at why Kubrick would choose to use a 500 speed film
for such a great looking film.

Jmo


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To: lynch-list@onelist.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [lynch-list] Re: lynch-list: A technical question



jm01 wrote:


Not all films are shot on a Panaflex camera and not all films are shot for a
theater screen or video. In some cases a matte card is placed on the
negative plane for a cetain dimention. It's not real common, but it does
happen.


Sure, I realize that. Happens often. All widescreen films are either matted
at the theater or at the
gate of the camera *except* 2.35:1 anamorphic. That's my point.

About EWS, did Kubrick really insist on only a full-frame version on video?
I hope it doesn't reveal any booms or flags or set walls.
(was any of it shot on a soundstage?)

--
     Ike


     "Sometimes--well, let's say all times--things are changing.  We
     are judged as human beings on how we treat our fellow human beings.
     How do you treat your fellow human beings?  At night, just before
     sleep, as you lay by yourself in the dark, how do you feel about
     yourself?  Are you proud of your behavior?  Are you ashamed of
     your behavior?  You know in your heart if you have hurt someone--
     you know.  If you have hurt someone, don't wait another day before
     making things right.  The world could break apart with sadness
     in the meantime."

     -Margaret Lanterman

PARIS, Dec 21 (AFP) - Robert Bresson, the maker of austere films
such as the award winning "Diary Of A Country Priest" has died at
the age of 98, his wife announced Tuesday.
    "I announce that my husband Robert Bresson died on December 18
1999 and will be buried privately," Marie-Madeleine Bresson said in
a short statement. She did not say the circumstances of Bresson's
death.
    Bresson was born in the village of Bromont-Lamothe in southern
France in 1901 and worked as a painter before discovering cinema.
    He made his first short film in 1934 before being conscripted
for World War II in 1939.
    He took up directing during the war after being taken prisoner
and freed again. He made "Les Anges du Peche" (Angels of the
Streets) in 1943 and "Les Dames du Bois de Boulogne" (The Ladies of
the Bois de Boulogne) in 1944.
    In 1950 he adapted Georges Bernanos's "Journal d'un Cure de
Campagne" (Diary of a Country Priest), which won eight international
awards.
    Described by Jean Luc Godard as being to the French cinema "as
Dostoyevsky is to the Russian novel and Mozart is German music",
Bresson made a total of 13 films.
    They included "Un Condamne a mort s'est echappe" (A Prisoner
Escapes) in 1956, "Le Proces de Jeanne d'Arc" (The Trial of Joan of
Arc) which won a special prize at the 1962 Cannes Film Festival, "Au
Hasard Balthasar" (Balthasar) and "Le Diable, Probablement" (The
Devil, Probably).
    His last film "L'Argent" (Money) -- made when he was 82 -- was a
harsh indictment of French society.

Has anybody seen any of these Andy Kaufman specials they've been playing
on
TV Land and Comedy Central and the like? I can't decide if the guy was
a brilliant performance artist or a complete lunatic. (Or is there any
difference?)

Anyway I've become infinitely fascinated with the fella, and I'm not
just
playing into the hands of the "Man on the Moon" promoters, I've always
been fascinated with him, I've just never had an opportunity to learn
anything about him until now. I had heard stories about him "goin nuts"
and
wrestling women and all that, but I'd never actually seen any of it.
That shit's hilarious. What a freak.

I'm interested to see how the film will portray him. I get the
impression
they're taking the "I am only fooling" approach. I hear Jim Carey did a
good
job as Andy, but I'm skeptical. Andy always had a dead-serious look
about him,
and from what I've seen of the promo's of the film, Carey just
constantly
looks like he's "cutting-up". But perhaps that's just because Jim
usually
is doing just that. Who knows. We'll see. Hopefully it'll be a good
movie,
though, what with Milos Foreman directing and all. Of course all I've
seen
is "Cuckoo's Nest". What else has he done?


--
      Ike


      "Sometimes--well, let's say all times--things are changing.  We
      are judged as human beings on how we treat our fellow human beings.

      How do you treat your fellow human beings?  At night, just before
      sleep, as you lay by yourself in the dark, how do you feel about
      yourself?  Are you proud of your behavior?  Are you ashamed of
      your behavior?  You know in your heart if you have hurt someone--
      you know.  If you have hurt someone, don't wait another day before
      making things right.  The world could break apart with sadness
      in the meantime."

      -Margaret Lanterman

>though, what with Milos Foreman directing and all. Of course all I've seen
is "Cuckoo's Nest". What else has he done? <

Hair, Amadeus, People vs. Larry Flynt are the only ones that spring to mind,
but there must be more.

I've had videotapes of the stuff they've been showing on Comedy Central,
plus a lot of other ones, for some time now.  Kaufman wasn't insane, unless
you wanna think that failing to maximize your earning potential qualifies as
insanity.  Not everything he did was great, some of it really stank, but he
was the most brilliant comedian ever.   He was definitely far past the edge,
though.  I think it was probably the fact that he could play jokes on his
audience instead of telling jokes to his audience that kept him from going
nuts.

I especially love the way he makes crackers look like the total idiots they
are.  Long fuck the South!


Tom

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ike [SMTP:goat@...]
> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 11:15 AM
> To: New Lynch List
> Subject: [lynch-list] Latka
>
>
>
>
> Has anybody seen any of these Andy Kaufman specials they've been playing
> on
> TV Land and Comedy Central and the like? I can't decide if the guy was
> a brilliant performance artist or a complete lunatic. (Or is there any
> difference?)
>
> Anyway I've become infinitely fascinated with the fella, and I'm not just
> playing into the hands of the "Man on the Moon" promoters, I've always
> been fascinated with him, I've just never had an opportunity to learn
> anything about him until now. I had heard stories about him "goin nuts"
> and
> wrestling women and all that, but I'd never actually seen any of it.
> That shit's hilarious. What a freak.
>
> I'm interested to see how the film will portray him. I get the impression
> they're taking the "I am only fooling" approach. I hear Jim Carey did a
> good
> job as Andy, but I'm skeptical. Andy always had a dead-serious look about
> him,
> and from what I've seen of the promo's of the film, Carey just constantly
> looks like he's "cutting-up". But perhaps that's just because Jim usually
> is doing just that. Who knows. We'll see. Hopefully it'll be a good movie,
>
> though, what with Milos Foreman directing and all. Of course all I've seen
>
> is "Cuckoo's Nest". What else has he done?
>
>
> --
>      Ike
>
>
>      "Sometimes--well, let's say all times--things are changing.  We
>      are judged as human beings on how we treat our fellow human beings.
>      How do you treat your fellow human beings?  At night, just before
>      sleep, as you lay by yourself in the dark, how do you feel about
>      yourself?  Are you proud of your behavior?  Are you ashamed of
>      your behavior?  You know in your heart if you have hurt someone--
>      you know.  If you have hurt someone, don't wait another day before
>      making things right.  The world could break apart with sadness
>      in the meantime."
>
>      -Margaret Lanterman
>

Hopefully it'll be a good movie,
     though, what with Milos Foreman directing and all. Of course all I've seen
     is "Cuckoo's Nest". What else has he done?


     Ragtime, Hair, Valmont, Amadeus, The People Vs Larry Flint

Hello!
I've been lurking on this list (the previous one) for quite some time now.
Today I decided finally to say couple of words.
Today is the first day of release of "The Ninth gate" in Russia.
After watching it I want to say that those of you in the US who wil not see
it till March really do not have much to miss.
The work of Dariusz Khondzi is excellent as always but this is about the
only one of the possible delights of this movie.
As for Polanski - this movie results as something below average of his
creative abilities.
The weakest point is the plot. Way too many things depend on accidental
coincidences etc. (I can talk more on this subject but I don't want to give
any spoilers to the ones who will watch "The Ninth Gate" anyway).
Reading movie magazines I got the impression that success of this movie is
very important for Polanski, that in case the movie fails he might have
serious difficulties with financing of his future projects.
Hopefully "The Ninth Gate" will get some box-office success (possibly due
to relatively good acting of Johnny Depp). Hopefully you (members of the
list) will enjoy the movie yourself. As for me - I think that in Polanski
filmography "The Ninth Gate" will unfortunately look like a piece of shite
among such masterpieces as "Rosemary's Baby" and "Chinatown".

May all be well

Sergey
P.S.: Please excuse my lame English and incorrect spellings.

The advance word I've read thusfar on MAN ON THE MOON is that it follows in
the footsteps of other recent biopics that end up revealing nothing new
about the film's subject like THE DOORS or Forman's THE PEOPLE VERSUS LARRY
FLYNT.  This is not saying that these films do not have entertainment value;
but - if you're like me - you expect to get some kind of insight into "who"
the subject "really" is/was.  I will definitly still see the film and judge
for myself because, like you Ike, I find myself fascinated by this oddball.

Eric


"Gentlemen!  You can't fight in here, this is the War Room!"


----- Original Message -----
From: Ike
To: New Lynch List
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 10:15 AM
Subject: [lynch-list] Latka




Has anybody seen any of these Andy Kaufman specials they've been playing on
TV Land and Comedy Central and the like? I can't decide if the guy was
a brilliant performance artist or a complete lunatic. (Or is there any
difference?)
Anyway I've become infinitely fascinated with the fella, and I'm not just
playing into the hands of the "Man on the Moon" promoters, I've always
been fascinated with him, I've just never had an opportunity to learn
anything about him until now. I had heard stories about him "goin nuts" and
wrestling women and all that, but I'd never actually seen any of it.
That shit's hilarious. What a freak.
I'm interested to see how the film will portray him. I get the impression
they're taking the "I am only fooling" approach. I hear Jim Carey did a good
job as Andy, but I'm skeptical. Andy always had a dead-serious look about
him,
and from what I've seen of the promo's of the film, Carey just constantly
looks like he's "cutting-up". But perhaps that's just because Jim usually
is doing just that. Who knows. We'll see. Hopefully it'll be a good movie,
though, what with Milos Foreman directing and all. Of course all I've seen
is "Cuckoo's Nest". What else has he done?

--
      Ike

      "Sometimes--well, let's say all times--things are changing.  We
      are judged as human beings on how we treat our fellow human beings.
      How do you treat your fellow human beings?  At night, just before
      sleep, as you lay by yourself in the dark, how do you feel about
      yourself?  Are you proud of your behavior?  Are you ashamed of
      your behavior?  You know in your heart if you have hurt someone--
      you know.  If you have hurt someone, don't wait another day before
      making things right.  The world could break apart with sadness
      in the meantime."
      -Margaret Lanterman

As much as I respect the Man Polanski as an artist, he's proven that he can
be as inane and insipid as the next idiot with that stinker PYRATES.

Eric


"Gentlemen!  You can't fight in here, this is the War Room!"


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sergey Nekrasov" <ecclesia@...>
To: <lynch-list@onelist.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 8:38 AM
Subject: [lynch-list] "The Ninth Gate" in Russia


> From: "Sergey Nekrasov" <ecclesia@...>
>
> Hello!
> I've been lurking on this list (the previous one) for quite some time now.
> Today I decided finally to say couple of words.
> Today is the first day of release of "The Ninth gate" in Russia.
> After watching it I want to say that those of you in the US who wil not
see
> it till March really do not have much to miss.
> The work of Dariusz Khondzi is excellent as always but this is about the
> only one of the possible delights of this movie.
> As for Polanski - this movie results as something below average of his
> creative abilities.
> The weakest point is the plot. Way too many things depend on accidental
> coincidences etc. (I can talk more on this subject but I don't want to
give
> any spoilers to the ones who will watch "The Ninth Gate" anyway).
> Reading movie magazines I got the impression that success of this movie is
> very important for Polanski, that in case the movie fails he might have
> serious difficulties with financing of his future projects.
> Hopefully "The Ninth Gate" will get some box-office success (possibly due
> to relatively good acting of Johnny Depp). Hopefully you (members of the
> list) will enjoy the movie yourself. As for me - I think that in Polanski
> filmography "The Ninth Gate" will unfortunately look like a piece of shite
> among such masterpieces as "Rosemary's Baby" and "Chinatown".
>
> May all be well
>
> Sergey
> P.S.: Please excuse my lame English and incorrect spellings.
>
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>The advance word I've read thusfar on MAN ON THE MOON is that it
follows in
	 the footsteps of other recent biopics that end up revealing nothing
new
	 about the film's subject like THE DOORS or Forman's THE PEOPLE
VERSUS LARRY
FLYNT.  <

I was afraid of that as soon as I heard that this movie was going to be
made.  My big hope is that, given the popularity of J. Carrey, people will
discover the non-Taxi work of AK and begin to expect more from their
entertainers.

So says the idealist.

Tom

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric  Billingsley [SMTP:ebillingsley@...]
> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 2:19 PM
> To: lynch-list@onelist.com
> Subject: Re: [lynch-list] Latka
>
> From: "Eric  Billingsley" <ebillingsley@...>
>
> The advance word I've read thusfar on MAN ON THE MOON is that it follows
> in
> the footsteps of other recent biopics that end up revealing nothing new
> about the film's subject like THE DOORS or Forman's THE PEOPLE VERSUS
> LARRY
> FLYNT.  This is not saying that these films do not have entertainment
> value;
> but - if you're like me - you expect to get some kind of insight into
> "who"
> the subject "really" is/was.  I will definitly still see the film and
> judge
> for myself because, like you Ike, I find myself fascinated by this
> oddball.
>
> Eric
>
>
> "Gentlemen!  You can't fight in here, this is the War Room!"
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ike
> To: New Lynch List
> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 10:15 AM
> Subject: [lynch-list] Latka
>
>
>
>
> Has anybody seen any of these Andy Kaufman specials they've been playing
> on
> TV Land and Comedy Central and the like? I can't decide if the guy was
> a brilliant performance artist or a complete lunatic. (Or is there any
> difference?)
> Anyway I've become infinitely fascinated with the fella, and I'm not just
> playing into the hands of the "Man on the Moon" promoters, I've always
> been fascinated with him, I've just never had an opportunity to learn
> anything about him until now. I had heard stories about him "goin nuts"
> and
> wrestling women and all that, but I'd never actually seen any of it.
> That shit's hilarious. What a freak.
> I'm interested to see how the film will portray him. I get the impression
> they're taking the "I am only fooling" approach. I hear Jim Carey did a
> good
> job as Andy, but I'm skeptical. Andy always had a dead-serious look about
> him,
> and from what I've seen of the promo's of the film, Carey just constantly
> looks like he's "cutting-up". But perhaps that's just because Jim usually
> is doing just that. Who knows. We'll see. Hopefully it'll be a good movie,
> though, what with Milos Foreman directing and all. Of course all I've seen
> is "Cuckoo's Nest". What else has he done?
>
> --
>      Ike
>
>      "Sometimes--well, let's say all times--things are changing.  We
>      are judged as human beings on how we treat our fellow human beings.
>      How do you treat your fellow human beings?  At night, just before
>      sleep, as you lay by yourself in the dark, how do you feel about
>      yourself?  Are you proud of your behavior?  Are you ashamed of
>      your behavior?  You know in your heart if you have hurt someone--
>      you know.  If you have hurt someone, don't wait another day before
>      making things right.  The world could break apart with sadness
>      in the meantime."
>      -Margaret Lanterman
>
> > Community email addresses:
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>From: "Eric  Billingsley" <ebillingsley@...>
>
>As much as I respect the Man Polanski as an artist, he's proven that he can
>be as inane and insipid as the next idiot with that stinker PYRATES.
>
>Eric


Uh, that 's 'PIRATES' eric. You must be thinking of the Kevin bacon stinker.
And Pirates, while definitley not Polanksi quality stuff, was a nice
failure, and only the kind of failure that a filmmaking genius like Polanki
could make.

I saw an awesome biography on him (I guess it was A&E). He lived a very
interesting life...

-----Original Message-----
From: Ike [mailto:goat@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 11:15 AM
To: New Lynch List
Subject: [lynch-list] Latka





Has anybody seen any of these Andy Kaufman specials they've been playing on
TV Land and Comedy Central and the like? I can't decide if the guy was
a brilliant performance artist or a complete lunatic. (Or is there any
difference?)


Anyway I've become infinitely fascinated with the fella, and I'm not just
playing into the hands of the "Man on the Moon" promoters, I've always
been fascinated with him, I've just never had an opportunity to learn
anything about him until now. I had heard stories about him "goin nuts" and
wrestling women and all that, but I'd never actually seen any of it.
That shit's hilarious. What a freak.


I'm interested to see how the film will portray him. I get the impression
they're taking the "I am only fooling" approach. I hear Jim Carey did a good

job as Andy, but I'm skeptical. Andy always had a dead-serious look about
him,
and from what I've seen of the promo's of the film, Carey just constantly
looks like he's "cutting-up". But perhaps that's just because Jim usually
is doing just that. Who knows. We'll see. Hopefully it'll be a good movie,
though, what with Milos Foreman directing and all. Of course all I've seen
is "Cuckoo's Nest". What else has he done?



--
      Ike



      "Sometimes--well, let's say all times--things are changing.  We
      are judged as human beings on how we treat our fellow human beings.
      How do you treat your fellow human beings?  At night, just before
      sleep, as you lay by yourself in the dark, how do you feel about
      yourself?  Are you proud of your behavior?  Are you ashamed of
      your behavior?  You know in your heart if you have hurt someone--
      you know.  If you have hurt someone, don't wait another day before
      making things right.  The world could break apart with sadness
      in the meantime."


      -Margaret Lanterman