Have had to downgrade from Internet access to dialup for
now. Finances heading south, along with my job.

Sage

PS havent renewed thejcc .com yet, you can still view the site at
http://thejcc.homestead.com...more news later

Hey, the web is not gonna wait for you. the longer you keep an old out
of date broswer running the longer more and more will stop working.
More and more  IT folks are NOT willing to keep their systems out of
date for a small population who are afraid of change.

jen



On Mar 31, 2005, at 1:59 AM, Kimberly Chapman wrote:

>  Oh, whoopsie, I guess I have to upgrade because "jen the web
> designer" said so. >:(

At 05:53 PM 30/03/05, J Segrest etched the following wisdom upon our hearts
and minds:
>Now, you might need a newer (post-1998) browser, since for such
>antiquated browsers were around before CSS was, soooooo UPDATE and stop
>whining, this is web advancement and wider W3 standards, which are a
>good thing!!!

Erm...isn't the point of CSS to gracefully degrade on older browsers so
browser snobs don't have the right to nag those of us on older machines as
to what browser we should/shouldn't use?  Furthermore, putting the default
as pale blue links over pale blue background is actually *against* W3C/WAI
recommendations since it can be difficult to navigate for the visually
impaired.  Less contrast is bad, mmmkay?  Yes owners can change it, but
before they can, some users will find navigation difficult.

Oh, and those of us with smaller screens now have it all crammed up so
tight that it's hard to read because of the ads on the side.  Care to nag
me about how I ought to go spend money on a larger monitor?  Not everyone
is fortunate enough to be able to afford the latest and greatest machines,
thankyouverymuch.

Sage, thank you for posting the petition link.  While I agree that the old
format had problems, the new one stinks and creates more problems for me
and many folks on my other groups.   I despise only having 5 groups on the
My Groups page and the reordering thing doesn't work right in my
browser.  Oh, whoopsie, I guess I have to upgrade because "jen the web
designer" said so. >:(


-- Kimberly Chapman, author, crafter, left-wing activist
kimberly@...
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http://www.livejournal.com/~kimberlychapman/
Information on my novels:
http://kimberlychapman.com/writing/writing.html

I own over ten groups - I could care less, it's easier for me to look
at, it loads faster and it has a much needed org revamp. The old one
was all over the place sometimes have to go to three places to alter
different aspects of ONE thing. I all the time would forget where to
find the Footer or description info stuff. And I am not a web flunky in
the least, so it it was messing me up it would certainly screw up
noobs.

They don't ask me to approve of the mails showing up three days late
sometimes, why would they ask me about an improvement? Lol!

(Actually they did - yahoo does have a committee of invited surveyors
of list owners, etc... I was invited to be on one lonnnnng survey
questionare some months ago... they pick a couple thousand list owners
at random to invite to survey on potential changes to system features.
A focus group really. A few hundred actually read the mail and go do
the survey. So they DO run some ideas with owners on potential changes,
just not ALL the owners, which is not only impossible but extremely
time wasting and doesn't help at all.)

You should know by now anytime you have a free service hosted anywhere
that you are up to the whims of the the service operators. You aren't
paying anything, they don't owe you anything. You are not doding them a
favor hosting your list of Pokemon/Harry Potter Fan Fiction there. Just
the mindset you have to adopt when using free services. They have a
million groups members, they can't please everyone, all they can do is
bring it "up to code" - and the code constantly changes. The more they
update it the better it gets in the long run for most people.

i'm just happy they finally did it,  I've been pissing and moaning over
the old ugly look for a year or more.

jen



On Mar 31, 2005, at 1:01 AM, purplegimp@... wrote:

> *Jen, While I'm sure you are quite correct, it seems to me that big
> issue here was that it was done wthout a word of warning to the group
> *owners*. Yeah, sure, there may well have been a lot yelling and
> hollering and 'we want this and thats' but if they can host this many
> groups surely they can send a quick mail to owners to tell them a
> change
> is coming. I'm also not convinced that is was ready when they did it.
> Having the posts come in reverse order when using next seems to
> indicate
> they weren't as ready as they thought they were. Things like that
> should
> not have been an issue. Nor should the address issues I had. It's not
> so
> much how it looks now, as the uneccessary glitches that got group
> owners
> upset and having it land on us one fine day like lightning on a sunny
> day.
>


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J Segrest wrote:

> yes it's different, but it needed a reorganization yeas ago.
>
> I think it looks great, btw, the CSS layout is WAY nicer (and faster!)
> than the crap mismatch they flung together when hey took over egroups
> years ago.
>
> Now, you might need a newer (post-1998) browser, since for such
> antiquated browsers were around before CSS was, soooooo UPDATE and stop
> whining, this is web advancement and wider W3 standards, which are a
> good thing!!!
>
> jen, the web designer

*Jen, While I'm sure you are quite correct, it seems to me that big
issue here was that it was done wthout a word of warning to the group
*owners*. Yeah, sure, there may well have been a lot yelling and
hollering and 'we want this and thats' but if they can host this many
groups surely they can send a quick mail to owners to tell them a change
is coming. I'm also not convinced that is was ready when they did it.
Having the posts come in reverse order when using next seems to indicate
they weren't as ready as they thought they were. Things like that should
not have been an issue. Nor should the address issues I had. It's not so
much how it looks now, as the uneccessary glitches that got group owners
upset and having it land on us one fine day like lightning on a sunny day.

*Franne Cloudwalker of the purple
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yes it's different, but it needed a reorganization yeas ago.

I think it looks great, btw, the CSS layout is WAY nicer (and faster!)
than the crap mismatch they flung together when hey took over egroups
years ago.

Now, you might need a newer (post-1998) browser, since for such
antiquated browsers were around before CSS was, soooooo UPDATE and stop
whining, this is web advancement and wider W3 standards, which are a
good thing!!!

jen, the web designer


On Mar 28, 2005, at 6:38 PM, sage_of_london wrote:

>
>
> Received a petition url from a fellow group manager who hates the new
> format of Yahoo Groups as much as I do. If you agree this sucks and
> want the original back you can sign a petition @
>
> http://www.petitiononline.com/kham2087/petition.html
>
> There are over 15,000 signees already!!!! And its growing.
>
> NO PRESSURE!!! It is absolutely your choice,and either way wont make a
> difference to anyone here.
>
> Sage
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
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>


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http://www.verybigdesign.com
jen@...

513-424-9202
AIM: DsignFunk

Received a petition url from a fellow group manager who hates the new
format of Yahoo Groups as much as I do. If you agree this sucks and
want the original back you can sign a petition @

http://www.petitiononline.com/kham2087/petition.html

There are over 15,000 signees already!!!! And its growing.

NO PRESSURE!!! It is absolutely your choice,and either way wont make a
difference to anyone here.

Sage

Please email me offline with suggestions. I am going to do a complete
renovation of the JCC Website in April or May of this year. A little
feedback would be appreciated!

Email to:
sage_of_london@...  OR
jasoncarterscrew@...

Thanks,
Sage, Founder
http://www.jasoncarterscrew.com

So sorry to hear of your loss, Sage.  It is always a difficult
decision to make.

I struggled with the same in having Twinkie (my 17 year old Yorkie)
put to sleep.  It was thought she had a mental problem and her
quality of life was diminishing.  It wasn't anything major, just
caused her to become almost obsessive compulsive and she would walk
in circles constantly and was somewhat incontinent.

But in the end you know you made the right decision.  It will not be
something to come to terms with easily, but Heyward is in a better
place because of your courage to do the right thing.

Hugs,

Jo-el

Hello,

For those of you thinking of attending I-Con this year, please visit
their website for information regarding a memorial event planned.
Visit http://www.iconsf.org/memorial_biggs.php.

Thank you,

Jo-el

Zeta
We had to do this a couple years ago. We had 2 cats that were 15. One was
senile and didn't know much. He used to be in the bathtub or the closet
crying. Vet said he didn't have anythin physical wrong with him. He just
wasn't happy. The other one we took with us when we moved, but she was too
old and didn't adapt well. All she would do was sleep all day and not eat.
Then at night she would go to the basement and scream all night.
We have one left that is about 8. He is happy as long as he can go out and
sit on the deck and check on the neighborhood.
betsy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Angie Z" <zetawing@...>
To: <jasoncarterscrew@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Jason Carter's Crew] Very Sad Day


>
> I'm so sorry to hear about your cat.
>
> I have 2 cats that are both nearly 18 yrs old.  one is
> losing his battle with old age and we will have to put
> him down soon as well.
>
> I understand the inconsolable feeling you speak of.
> I'm sure I'll be the same when my boys either are put
> down or go naturally.
>
> *major hugs for you*
>
> God Bless.
>
> ~Zeta~
>
>
> --- sage_of_london <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I had to put my cat Heyward to sleep yesterday. He
> > had a chemical
> > imbalance that caused him to be aggressive.
> > Yesterday he became not
> > only aggressive but dangerous. He attacked myself
> > and my other cat.
> > The Vet said there was nothing else they could do
> > (he had been on
> > meds to control his behavior),so to sleep he went.
> > He was only 9. Even looking a the mess he made of my
> > arm to remind me
> > of why this had to be doesnt help. I am
> > inconsolable.
> >
> > Sage
>
>
> ~Angie~
> aka...Zeta
>
> "May God stand between you and harm, in all the empty places you must
walk" -Cmdr Susan Ivanova-
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Sorry to hear about your pet too Paula.
It is never easy, no matter how long it has been.
betsy
----- Original Message -----
From: "paula_tanser" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: <jasoncarterscrew@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 4:09 PM
Subject: [Jason Carter's Crew] Re: Very Sad Day


>
>
> --- In jasoncarterscrew@yahoogroups.com, sage_of_london
> <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> >
> > I had to put my cat Heyward to sleep yesterday. He had a chemical
> > imbalance that caused him to be aggressive. Yesterday he became not
> > only aggressive but dangerous. He attacked myself and my other cat.
> > The Vet said there was nothing else they could do (he had been on
> > meds to control his behavior),so to sleep he went.
> > He was only 9. Even looking a the mess he made of my arm to remind
> me
> > of why this had to be doesnt help. I am inconsolable.
> >
> > Sage
>
> Hi Sage
>
> I'm so sorry for you and I know exactly how you are feeling. It's
> been a year since my cat Nellie had to be put to sleep. She had
> benign ulcers that started off in her front leg, I payed for the
> operation to have them removed (plus the additional fee of the
> biopsy.) But the vet told me that the root of the lump had dug itself
> into her ligaments, so to remove the lump completely would cause her
> more harm than good.
>
> The lumps came back into her leg, so we had to do the radical thing
> of amputating her leg. I hated the fact that I had to do it. But she
> adapted well. 10 months later, I was stroking her one day and noticed
> a group of lumps behind her collar. I knew what it was, and I took
> her to the vets, he informed me that it was only a matter of time
> till things got bad for her.
>
> He was right, 3 weeks later, a lump burst and she kept scratching at
> it and making it worse. So me and my mum took her to PDSA. When we
> got out of the car, in a way she knew as well as she tried to run
> away. She scratched my chest and the inside of my arm, but we took
> her in and the vet said that it would be kinder to end it now, rather
> than her being in more and more pain. It was the hardest decision
> that I had ever had to make. But I knew that it was better for her,
> and I know that she's in a better place where there's no suffering.
> My scratches have scarred, and every now and then I'll look at them
> and remeber when she died.
>
> It takes time, but things will get better and easier for you.
>
> Paula
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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>
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--- In jasoncarterscrew@yahoogroups.com, sage_of_london
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
>
> I had to put my cat Heyward to sleep yesterday. He had a chemical
> imbalance that caused him to be aggressive. Yesterday he became not
> only aggressive but dangerous. He attacked myself and my other cat.
> The Vet said there was nothing else they could do (he had been on
> meds to control his behavior),so to sleep he went.
> He was only 9. Even looking a the mess he made of my arm to remind
me
> of why this had to be doesnt help. I am inconsolable.
>
> Sage

Hi Sage

I'm so sorry for you and I know exactly how you are feeling. It's
been a year since my cat Nellie had to be put to sleep. She had
benign ulcers that started off in her front leg, I payed for the
operation to have them removed (plus the additional fee of the
biopsy.) But the vet told me that the root of the lump had dug itself
into her ligaments, so to remove the lump completely would cause her
more harm than good.

The lumps came back into her leg, so we had to do the radical thing
of amputating her leg. I hated the fact that I had to do it. But she
adapted well. 10 months later, I was stroking her one day and noticed
a group of lumps behind her collar. I knew what it was, and I took
her to the vets, he informed me that it was only a matter of time
till things got bad for her.

He was right, 3 weeks later, a lump burst and she kept scratching at
it and making it worse. So me and my mum took her to PDSA. When we
got out of the car, in a way she knew as well as she tried to run
away. She scratched my chest and the inside of my arm, but we took
her in and the vet said that it would be kinder to end it now, rather
than her being in more and more pain. It was the hardest decision
that I had ever had to make. But I knew that it was better for her,
and I know that she's in a better place where there's no suffering.
My scratches have scarred, and every now and then I'll look at them
and remeber when she died.

It takes time, but things will get better and easier for you.

Paula

I'm so sorry to hear about your cat.

I have 2 cats that are both nearly 18 yrs old.  one is
losing his battle with old age and we will have to put
him down soon as well.

I understand the inconsolable feeling you speak of.
I'm sure I'll be the same when my boys either are put
down or go naturally.

*major hugs for you*

God Bless.

~Zeta~


--- sage_of_london <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> I had to put my cat Heyward to sleep yesterday. He
> had a chemical
> imbalance that caused him to be aggressive.
> Yesterday he became not
> only aggressive but dangerous. He attacked myself
> and my other cat.
> The Vet said there was nothing else they could do
> (he had been on
> meds to control his behavior),so to sleep he went.
> He was only 9. Even looking a the mess he made of my
> arm to remind me
> of why this had to be doesnt help. I am
> inconsolable.
>
> Sage


~Angie~
aka...Zeta

"May God stand between you and harm, in all the empty places you must walk"
-Cmdr Susan Ivanova-

AOL Instant Messenger / Yahoo Messenger -Zetawing




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My thanks to all who offered their condolences and prayers both on
and offlist.
Tomorrow would have been his 9th birthday. I suppose once I get thru
that I should be ok. More or less.

Sage

My condolences to you, Sage.  It is indeed a sad time when we lose a beloved
pet.

Bailin


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Sage - I'm so sorry. It hurts to lose something so precious. That
couldn't have been an easy decision for you....Hugs and prayers am
sending out to you.

Hoping for your healing,
Laura O

Sage,

So sorry.  That completely stinks.
Feel yourself surrounded by sympathy.

It's high time something went well in your life!

Alison Longstaff
my business web site:
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"Touch passion when it comes your way.  It's rare enough as it is.  Do not
walk away when it calls you by name."

Ranger Marcus Cole - JMS - B5




-----Original Message-----
From: sage_of_london [mailto:no_reply@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: February 26, 2005 2:41 PM
To: jasoncarterscrew@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Jason Carter's Crew] Very Sad Day




I had to put my cat Heyward to sleep yesterday. He had a chemical
imbalance that caused him to be aggressive. Yesterday he became not
only aggressive but dangerous. He attacked myself and my other cat.
The Vet said there was nothing else they could do (he had been on
meds to control his behavior),so to sleep he went.
He was only 9. Even looking a the mess he made of my arm to remind me
of why this had to be doesnt help. I am inconsolable.

Sage







Yahoo! Groups Links

Sage :*(,
{{{{{{{{{{{HUGEST HUGS}}}}}}}}}}}
If you need to talk at all...
Jo x

-------Original Message-------

I had to put my cat Heyward to sleep yesterday. He had a chemical
imbalance that caused him to be aggressive. Yesterday he became not
only aggressive but dangerous. He attacked myself and my other cat.
The Vet said there was nothing else they could do (he had been on
meds to control his behavior),so to sleep he went.
He was only 9. Even looking a the mess he made of my arm to remind me
of why this had to be doesnt help. I am inconsolable.

Sage

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

In einer eMail vom 26.02.05 20:42:49 (MEZ) Mitteleuropäische Zeit schreibt
no_reply@yahoogroups.com:

> I had to put my cat Heyward to sleep yesterday. He had a chemical
> imbalance that caused him to be aggressive. Yesterday he became not
> only aggressive but dangerous. He attacked myself and my other cat.
> The Vet said there was nothing else they could do (he had been on
> meds to control his behavior),so to sleep he went.
> He was only 9. Even looking a the mess he made of my arm to remind me
> of why this had to be doesnt help. I am inconsolable.
>
> Sage
>

I'm so sorry Sage :(
I don't have cats, but guinea pigs and bunnies - and I've lost a lot of them
through diseases over the years... and had to put some of them to sleep as
well. I can really relate to you. My deepest sympathy :)

Hugs :)
WhiteStar

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Sage
So sorry to hear about your kitty Heyward. I know how though this is. Having
had to do this several times over the years. Just know it is the best for
him, he was probably not happy.
Prayers and good vibes coming your way!
betsy
----- Original Message -----
From: "sage_of_london" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: <jasoncarterscrew@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 2:41 PM
Subject: [Jason Carter's Crew] Very Sad Day


>
>
> I had to put my cat Heyward to sleep yesterday. He had a chemical
> imbalance that caused him to be aggressive. Yesterday he became not
> only aggressive but dangerous. He attacked myself and my other cat.
> The Vet said there was nothing else they could do (he had been on
> meds to control his behavior),so to sleep he went.
> He was only 9. Even looking a the mess he made of my arm to remind me
> of why this had to be doesnt help. I am inconsolable.
>
> Sage
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

I had to put my cat Heyward to sleep yesterday. He had a chemical
imbalance that caused him to be aggressive. Yesterday he became not
only aggressive but dangerous. He attacked myself and my other cat.
The Vet said there was nothing else they could do (he had been on
meds to control his behavior),so to sleep he went.
He was only 9. Even looking a the mess he made of my arm to remind me
of why this had to be doesnt help. I am inconsolable.

Sage

I would love to see some more of JMS series. Especially B5. I love Star Trek
too.
betsy
----- Original Message -----
From: "J McQuillan" <jaslooney@...>
To: <jasoncarterscrew@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 6:35 AM
Subject: [Jason Carter's Crew] Something of interest...


>
>  Hi all,
>
> Just thought I'd pass this link along that I found. Quite interesting.
>
> http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/588/588117p1.html?fromint=1
>
> Jo
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hi everyone,

If I'm not mistaken, they indeed filmed part of Trekkies2 at FedCon 2003,
where Toffee, Dorothée and I met Jason. I have not seen the film though
and I can't say if we're on it. :-)

Danny, cursing the fact that "Redemption Con" is in Europe again but
there are no decent flights <sigh>


On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 14:49:22 -0000
virgilsdante10 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> spoke pure music by saying:

>
> Hi again everyone,
>
> Just saw Trekkies2 last night and one of the first cons shown in the
> film is FedCon in Bonn, Germany. So I was wondering (and looking
> intently) to see if any of you made it thru the cutting room floor
> (Toffee? Danny? Dorothee?). So do tell!
>
> Unfortunately, DragonCon was not mentioned (sorry Bailin...:-( )
>
> It's a great one to watch, as well as the original Trekkies....and in
> light of Josie's last posting....some interesting timing and
> perspectives to consider.
>
> Anyhow...was just wondering.
>
> Laura O (who has to return to working on deadline now....)
>
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Hi again everyone,

Just saw Trekkies2 last night and one of the first cons shown in the
film is FedCon in Bonn, Germany. So I was wondering (and looking
intently) to see if any of you made it thru the cutting room floor
(Toffee? Danny? Dorothee?). So do tell!

Unfortunately, DragonCon was not mentioned (sorry Bailin...:-( )

It's a great one to watch, as well as the original Trekkies....and in
light of Josie's last posting....some interesting timing and
perspectives to consider.

Anyhow...was just wondering.

Laura O (who has to return to working on deadline now....)

Hi all,

Just thought I'd pass this link along that I found. Quite interesting.

http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/588/588117p1.html?fromint=1

Jo

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Repost from the JCFC Forum (www.jasoncarterfanclub.com)
ROAR is on tomorrow 02/17 at 8:00am EST
Posted by: Jo-el
Date: 02/16/05 - 12:39:36
Hi folks,

Per TV Guide Online, the SCI-Fi Channel will be airing ROAR: Red
Boot tomorrow at 8:00am.

Check your local listings.

Thanks,

Jo-el

Hi Guys,

Just saw your discussion Danny with Jo-el. Glad that there are fans
like you and I and all of us who would push for Jason to be onscreen
(remember "Cast Jason as Sirius Black?" a tireless effort and worthy
of applause) but I agree with Jo-el's perception here of what is
going on....this is an industry thing...and you make a great point
about supply and demand to consider.

However, from what I've seen here at the JCFC site of some film
projects (and maybe this also comes from working as a
writer/illustrator at a not-for-profit agency) this is a numbers
game - especially with the Indie film circuit. IF the funds aren't
there....then productions gets stalled.

This has happened on several awareness campaigns for myself at
work....and the behind the scenes workings with financial support (or
lack thereof) can greatly affect the outcome as to whether a project
will ever see the light of day.

It would be nice to be proved wrong, of course...but we're talking
drumming up investors and the like for production costs.

An excellent film worth seeing that illustrates this is "Full-tilt
Boogie" a behind-the-scenes look at the making of From Dusk Til Dawn
with Quentin Tarantino. You get a real feel for what production
people - and the actors themselves - go thru to get a film made.

I think everyone here wishes the same as you Danny, Jo-el included
(hey - she's the prez after all! lol!). Hopefully, we'll get to see
the Mesmerist out soon....cuz I agree with you....Jason's work is
exceptional in this from what I've seen of the trailer.

LOL! And from the great description of Jason's entrance you told us
of....I can't help smirking about the fact that Art could imitate
Life here...(that social vampire thing! About that need for
applause ;-) )

OK - enuff musing for now.....back to tending to a sick child....

Cheers!
Laura O

No wonder, I dare to disagree. :-) So-called "fans" have a lot of power
if they pool her resources. It's all about offer and demands. If there
is no demand or nobody "seems" interested, why should they ever release
the movie?

Of course, I'm not saying that we *should* flood the poor guy's mailbox
(and I'm sure he has various address and not only a "yahoo" one), but he
should know that there is a market for this kind of stuff and I dare to
say that one voice only isn't enough :-)

Danny

On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 13:22:42 -0000
joellync <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> spoke pure music by saying:

>
> I do not believe writing to him will help. That isn't how you get
> films out on DVD, and I don't think it is his decision.  Same thing
> with getting some films released in theaters, it is a matter of
> distribution and costs.
>
> If it is released great, if not then that is a disappointment.
>
> We'll see what happens and I do my best to keep folks posted.  After
> all, Midsummer's Night Rave just finally got released on DVD.  It
> just can take time for some of the Indie films and some never get
> released.
>
> So I do not recommend flooding Terry's email box asking for this on
> DVD.  He is very busy and his email address is also used for
> business purposes.  I'm already writing to him and keeping Donna up-
> to-date.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jo-el
>
> --- In jasoncarterscrew@yahoogroups.com, danny & dexter <mac@d...>
> wrote:
> > > It has a very limited theater run and has yet to be released on
> > > DVD.  Still not sure if it ever will be as Terry felt it would
> be
> > > released about a year ago and it still isn't out there.
> >
> > Maybe if more of us wrote to him, it would help? I, too, had
> emailed him
> > a year ago or so, no make that two years ago or three, after I'd
> seen it
> > during a vacation. But Terry could never give a release date for
> the DVD.
> >
> > And it is *such* a funky, funny, hilarious movie. Jason's
> introduction
> > as the Mesmerist is to die for. His character is so... sure of
> himself
> > and his entrance is fabulous. So... "over-acted" but it suited the
> > character he played. Imagine him crashing through a door, looking
> around
> > with a "raised nose" and waiting for the applause, so to speak.
> Then he
> > is introduced by name and he keeps saying "More..." when the
> introducter
> > seems to forget a title or yet another first name. And that is
> only the
> > beginning.
> >
> > Let's all write to Terry and ask for it <sigh>
> >
> > Danny, still giggling
> >
> > >
> > > --- In jasoncarterscrew@yahoogroups.com, "rangerkhat"
> > > <rangerkhat@f...> wrote:
> > > > Is this a new movie?
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "joellync" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > To: <jasoncarterscrew@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 11:13 AM
> > > > Subject: [Jason Carter's Crew] Re: Mesmerist trailer screen
> shots
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The ones I made will be posted at the club site as well.  I
> just
> > > > > didn't have time to upload what I had beyond the 2 posters.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In jasoncarterscrew@yahoogroups.com, danny & dexter
> > > <mac@d...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > What's a better opportunity to break in a new software
> than
> > > trying
> > > > > it on
> > > > > > a delightful object? I did a few screen captures of the
> > > trailer Jo-
> > > > > el
> > > > > > posted to Jason's site. You can find them in the photo
> section
> > > of
> > > > > Sage's
> > > > > > yahoo group here. They're small due to the bad quality of
> the
> > > > > trailer
> > > > > > file but, hey, you can recognize him :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The direct link would be:
> > > > > > http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/jasoncarterscrew/lst?
> > > > > &.dir=/Mesmerist+trailer&.src=gr&.view=t&.url=http%
> > > > > 3a//us.f1.yahoofs.com/groups/jasoncarterscrew/Mesmerist%
> > > > > 2btrailer/mesmerist_jc157.jpg%
> > > > > 3fbcoyZAxBTDjITgLU&.cx=150&.cy=112&.type=u
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (but I doubt it'll work)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Enjoy!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Danny
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 10:31:03 -0000
> > > > > > joellync <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> spoke pure music by
> saying:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Incase you did not see my post on the JCFC forum
> yesterday,
> > > I
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > just uploaded the trailer and movie posters for The
> > > Mesmerist.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > will have screen captures uploaded shortly.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > BTW - just a reminder to contributors.  If you did not
> > > receive
> > > > > your
> > > > > > > thank you gift or it arrived damaged, please contact me
> and
> > > > > include
> > > > > > > your address at the fan club email address
> > > > > (JasonCarterFC@a...).
> > > > > > > I received 1 package back due to being undeliverable and
> I
> > > > > contacted
> > > > > > > that person offline (and have heard back from them).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you do not see your contribution at the site, please
> > > resend.
> > > > > > > When I had my computer crash last year I lost a lot of
> data
> > > > > which
> > > > > > > included some contributions and addresses.  So if you do
> not
> > > see
> > > > > > > your contribution at the site, I no longer had it or
> your
> > > > > address to
> > > > > > > ask for it to be resent and therefore I could not
> forward a
> > > > > thank
> > > > > > > you gift.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cut off for the 1 time resending is Saturday, February
> 12.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jo-el
> > > > > > > Webmaster and President
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I do not believe writing to him will help. That isn't how you get
films out on DVD, and I don't think it is his decision.  Same thing
with getting some films released in theaters, it is a matter of
distribution and costs.

If it is released great, if not then that is a disappointment.

We'll see what happens and I do my best to keep folks posted.  After
all, Midsummer's Night Rave just finally got released on DVD.  It
just can take time for some of the Indie films and some never get
released.

So I do not recommend flooding Terry's email box asking for this on
DVD.  He is very busy and his email address is also used for
business purposes.  I'm already writing to him and keeping Donna up-
to-date.

Thanks,

Jo-el

--- In jasoncarterscrew@yahoogroups.com, danny & dexter <mac@d...>
wrote:
> > It has a very limited theater run and has yet to be released on
> > DVD.  Still not sure if it ever will be as Terry felt it would
be
> > released about a year ago and it still isn't out there.
>
> Maybe if more of us wrote to him, it would help? I, too, had
emailed him
> a year ago or so, no make that two years ago or three, after I'd
seen it
> during a vacation. But Terry could never give a release date for
the DVD.
>
> And it is *such* a funky, funny, hilarious movie. Jason's
introduction
> as the Mesmerist is to die for. His character is so... sure of
himself
> and his entrance is fabulous. So... "over-acted" but it suited the
> character he played. Imagine him crashing through a door, looking
around
> with a "raised nose" and waiting for the applause, so to speak.
Then he
> is introduced by name and he keeps saying "More..." when the
introducter
> seems to forget a title or yet another first name. And that is
only the
> beginning.
>
> Let's all write to Terry and ask for it <sigh>
>
> Danny, still giggling
>
> >
> > --- In jasoncarterscrew@yahoogroups.com, "rangerkhat"
> > <rangerkhat@f...> wrote:
> > > Is this a new movie?
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "joellync" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> > > To: <jasoncarterscrew@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 11:13 AM
> > > Subject: [Jason Carter's Crew] Re: Mesmerist trailer screen
shots
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The ones I made will be posted at the club site as well.  I
just
> > > > didn't have time to upload what I had beyond the 2 posters.
> > > >
> > > > --- In jasoncarterscrew@yahoogroups.com, danny & dexter
> > <mac@d...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > What's a better opportunity to break in a new software
than
> > trying
> > > > it on
> > > > > a delightful object? I did a few screen captures of the
> > trailer Jo-
> > > > el
> > > > > posted to Jason's site. You can find them in the photo
section
> > of
> > > > Sage's
> > > > > yahoo group here. They're small due to the bad quality of
the
> > > > trailer
> > > > > file but, hey, you can recognize him :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > The direct link would be:
> > > > > http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/jasoncarterscrew/lst?
> > > > &.dir=/Mesmerist+trailer&.src=gr&.view=t&.url=http%
> > > > 3a//us.f1.yahoofs.com/groups/jasoncarterscrew/Mesmerist%
> > > > 2btrailer/mesmerist_jc157.jpg%
> > > > 3fbcoyZAxBTDjITgLU&.cx=150&.cy=112&.type=u
> > > > >
> > > > > (but I doubt it'll work)
> > > > >
> > > > > Enjoy!
> > > > >
> > > > > Danny
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 10:31:03 -0000
> > > > > joellync <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> spoke pure music by
saying:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Incase you did not see my post on the JCFC forum
yesterday,
> > I
> > > > have
> > > > > > just uploaded the trailer and movie posters for The
> > Mesmerist.
> > > > I
> > > > > > will have screen captures uploaded shortly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BTW - just a reminder to contributors.  If you did not
> > receive
> > > > your
> > > > > > thank you gift or it arrived damaged, please contact me
and
> > > > include
> > > > > > your address at the fan club email address
> > > > (JasonCarterFC@a...).
> > > > > > I received 1 package back due to being undeliverable and
I
> > > > contacted
> > > > > > that person offline (and have heard back from them).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you do not see your contribution at the site, please
> > resend.
> > > > > > When I had my computer crash last year I lost a lot of
data
> > > > which
> > > > > > included some contributions and addresses.  So if you do
not
> > see
> > > > > > your contribution at the site, I no longer had it or
your
> > > > address to
> > > > > > ask for it to be resent and therefore I could not
forward a
> > > > thank
> > > > > > you gift.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cut off for the 1 time resending is Saturday, February
12.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jo-el
> > > > > > Webmaster and President
> > > > > > The Official Jason Carter Fan Club
> > > > > > www.jasoncarterfanclub.com
> > > > > > A Division of Pipeline Productions
> > > > > > www.pipetap.com
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> > > > > if the eyes had no tears
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