Shell:

I am so sorry to learn that your beautiful site has turned into chaos.
Intellectual properties are quite edgy. I am sure it is a fine line between the
"intellectual" and the use of that person's property.

Give it some time. I'm sure you will be able to find a way out of this maddening
predicament. I am certain that Ingrid's family would like to see your site come
to fruition so I am sure the legal technicalities will eventually be ironed out
in
your favor. I certainly hope so.

Is there any way I can help?

Diane


--- In ingridbergmaninternational@yahoogroups.com, byronshell <
no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all.
>
> Yes, it is true. ingridbergman.com is no longer up. It will come back
> but under the management of CWG, a group of lawyers in control of
> Ingrid's Name and Estate. Of course it will look like the same
> Official site that is up now
> http://www.cmgworldwide.com/stars/bergman/index.php. Ugh is it just
> ghastly. Very unimpressive and unworthy of one of the screen's
> greatest actresses. Also outdated, it still reads it is Oscar time?
>
> As many you know I was building what I hoped to be the best Ingrid
> site on the web at ingridbergman.com. I went to the Official site and
> requested a link. A week later I got a letter stating I was to turn
> the domain name over to them as I had no right to it.
>
> What was truly amazing is I have owned the domain for many, many years
> and no one ever approached me. It was only my ignorance in contacting
> them that brought it to their concern.
>
> I contacted Ingrid's grandson at the ingridbergman.org site and shared
> my site. He loved it. He didn't ask for the domain, and he said it was
> a great site. I explained that the lawyers wanted the domain, but I
> felt I was doing a better job with it than anyone else could. Then he
> changed his opinion and all of a sudden his faimly should have the
> site and I should give it up because the family wanted it. Again,
> where was the family for the last nine years I owned it. No one cared
> then, but now it was important. He also stated they would do it
> justice more than I because they were family. I agrued to keep the
> site unsuccessfully.
>
> I'm a tad bitter, yes. I'm sure I shouldn't be writing this, but these
> are my feelings on it. I did give the site up without a fight for the
> memory of Ingrid but I pleaded with many a letter asking to keep the
> site all to no avail. I was offered the .org domain if I sent
> everything for approval first and would give them the right to tell me
> what I could do and couldn't do. Very nice for them, a free resource
> to promote Ingrid's name and provide a link to the soon to be inferior
> .com site.
>
> I was also told I could not run google Adwords or ebay ads or anything
> other than Amazon if I accepted the .org domain in exchange, but I was
> still required to pay for all the expenses incurred in hosting, but
> they maintain strict control. I felt this wasn't fair so I have opted
> at this time not to take the .org site. It feels dirty to me now.
>
> What a shame, I think. I put a lot of time, energy, money and
> creativity into that site and was tyring to make it a place for all of
> us that are fans to contribute our thoughts and feelings and anything
> to do with Ingrid.
>
> Well, that was crushed. There are many sites that have Ingrid
> information and google adwords and posters and ebay ads, but because I
> was trying to reach out to the Ingrid network and be involved I was
> punished. I may start another site without her name in it (as the
> lawyers told me I could not use), but I'm sure I will be sent another
> letter for unauthorized use of images, while hundreds of other sites
> are left to do what they please.
>
> If the Larry the Lawyer reads this or Ingrid's grandson, I hope you
> understand why I posted this. I'm still stinging a little. I realize
> you are right and IngridBergman.com should belong to the family if
> they want it, but no one wanted it until I made something of it.
>
> So please no one write to tell me I was wrong to feel angry. I did the
> legally right thing, but I can certainly feel jilted if I like. Has
> anyone else had this type of experience with Ingrid's family? Is it
> worth starting another site? I was about 70% complete with the last
> one and may finish it one day if there is interest? Of course I would
> continue adding contributions so it would never actually be finished.
>
> Domain name suggestions would be welcome in case I get the motiviation
> to try again.
>
> Shell Harris
>