Adil,

"Taxi Driver" is another modern classic from the trio of
Scorsese, De Niro, and Keitel. More a De Niro/Scorsese movie than a
Keitel movie, although he does make the most of his brief screen
time. It was the total antithesis of "Death Wish" -type movies of
that time, and showed the vigilante as being as screwed up as any of
his scumbag victims. It also was a truly defining moment in De Niro's
career as an actor. It's often disturbing look at lonliness and
despair amongst all that urban decay really rang true back in that
disenchanted post-Watergate era, where no one really believed in
heroes anymore... only anti-heroes. A great film.

As for some other titles, try (as I said before) "Fingers". It's a
gritty 1978 film with Keitel in one of his greatest performances as a
debt collector who'd rather be a concert pianist. Also, if you
haven't seen them, see of course the Tarantino films with
Keitel, "Reservoir Dogs" and "Pulp Fiction". They're both great.
Another peak was Jane Campion's 1993 "The Piano", an erotic
masterpiece.

Of a more acqiured taste, I suppose, I also liked Spike
Lee's "Clockers", a 1995 vastly underrated cop drama. There's Ridley
Scott's 1977 "The Duellists", Martin Scorsese's "The Last Temptation
of Christ", and Wayne Wang's 1995 "Smoke", which Keitel is superb in.

That should get you started, but there are many others...




--- In harveykeitelfans@yahoogroups.com, adil ali
<theshocka2003@y...> wrote:
> DKelly and Keitel fans
> Yeah, I agree that Blue Collar is Keitel's most underrated film,
I have yet to see them play it on cable. I doubt that they will ever
show it on cable because of the touchy subjects of racism and the
corrupt union. By the way, does anybody have any comments on Taxi
Driver?(where Keitel had a role as the pimp). Also, if anybody could
give me some more Keitel films that are worth watching, I'd
appreciate it.
> Talk soon, Adil
>
> dkelly26666 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> To Adil: That's great! Then you have now seen three of
Keitel's
> best films, in my opinion.
>
> "Bad Lieutenant" is a gritty, powerful film that dares to pose the
> question of redemption for someone who does horrendous things. If
he
> isn't shown as doing awful things, then why would he need
redemption?
> And I loved the way that Keitel played the role with an absolutely
> uncompromising audacity. He and Ferrara aren't concerned if you
like
> the character. To the contrary, they want you NOT to like him, yet
> still accept that even a vile sinner like him is still worthy of
> redemption. It's a tough pill to swallow, not the least bit
> commercial or sentimental. Ferrara's best film, and Harvey's
greatest
> performance.
>
> "Mean Streets" is, quite simply, a modern classic. Enormously
> influential on a whole generation of filmmakers, and the movie that
> introduced the world to the incomparable trio of Scorsese, De Niro,
> and Keitel. Oh, how I wish those three would work together again. I
> love this film's authentic sense of being in a particular place and
a
> particular time. It's atmosphere, in other words. A great American
> indie film, and the start of something truly extraordinary.
>
>
> And, finally, "Blue Collar" is , I feel, one of Keitel's greatest
> underrated films. It's one of Spike Lee's favorite movies, and was
> probably the best movie Paul Schrader ever made. Richard Pryor has
> never topped the performance he gave here; Keitel is excellent;
> Yaphet Kotto will break your heart. An enormously insightful film
> that taps into something most people will never be able to, or care
> to, tap into. Another gritty masterpiece.
>
>
> Keitel's filmography is full of rich titles such as these. Beyond
> the glitz of the Tarantino films (which I love also), and the
> occasional commercial waste of time ("Little Nicky"), Keitel has
> dozens of hidden, forgotten gems. By the way, seek out "Fingers"
> next!!!!
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In harveykeitelfans@yahoogroups.com, adil ali
> <theshocka2003@y...> wrote:
> > A few comments on Bad Liuetenant
> >
> > I agree with everything you guys are saying, but at the same
> time, Ferrara and Keitel had to portray a man so dehumanized and
> alienated from his surroundings. I think the scenes where we see
> Harvey humping hookers and getting high compliment the tone of the
> movie perfectly. The important thing to remember is that Bad
> Liuetenant is not merely a movie that shows a bad person doing bad
> things but a story of redemption. By the way I recently saw
Keitel's
> other films: Blue Collar and Mean streets.
> >
> > Adil
> >
> > popkins300 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > ---Hi snoak09- I have just been reading your thoughts on 'Bad
> > Lieutenant and some time ago I was villified on this site by
other
> > fans who disagree with anyone who dares question the integrity of
> > this film. I have the highest regard for HK- think he is one of
> the
> > best actors BUT watching some scenes in this particular film make
> me
> > squirm. I don't see why great actors should be entitled to
explore
> > their inner demons and torments on screen as though this
> > was 'entertaining'.I don't enjoy watching my favourite actor
> > masturbating. And I couldn't even begin to imagine how I'd feel,
> if
> > he was my father. Sorry to go on but this film really makes me
> angry!
> > I also got fed up with his personal life - imagine a guy like him
> > disputing the payments for Baby Potter. Not the great guy I
> thought
> > he was but I guess none of us are perfect. I sincerely hope he
> finds
> > married bliss with Daphna and wish them both much happiness. Bye
> for
> > now. Popkins
> >
> > In harveykeitelfans@yahoogroups.com, snoak09 <no_reply@y...>
wrote:
> > > Hi John....I didn't say it was a disgusting and awful film. I
> > found
> > > it interesting but a sad film and as I said unsettling.
> > > Masterpiece? I wouldn't say that. His finest
moment...hardly!!
> > but
> > > that is just my lowly opinion as I certainly am no film
critic.
> > >
> > > As far as knowing what kind of a man he is....I would like to
> think
> > > or know what kind of person the actor is that I am a fan of.
> > Nobody
> > > is perfect but I really don't think I want to be a fan of some
> kind
> > > of sleezy, creepy, or demented character...hopefully HK is none
> of
> > > the above. I still love his smile and laugh.... Snoak
> > >
> > > --- In harveykeitelfans@yahoogroups.com, harveybombaytiger
> > > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > > Hello Chaille. Nice to see you back! So you thought Bad
> > Lieutenant
> > > > was a disgusting and awful film. One word you did use was
> > > unsettling.
> > > > That word rains true when speaking of this film! But I think
I
> > can
> > > > speak for many when I say Bad Lieutenant is a masterpiece,
not
> > only
> > > > Harvey's finest moment but also the director's (Abel Ferrara)
> > > shining
> > > > star! As far as Harvey's daughter Stella is concerned, I
think
> > she
> > > > will look upon this film as her father's ultimate method
> > > performance.
> > > > It's an important piece of work!
> > > >
> > > > Do we really need to know what kind of man Harvey is? We as
> fans
> > > have
> > > > his films and it is his films that he will be remembered by!
> > > >
> > > > Regards John
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In harveykeitelfans@yahoogroups.com, snoak09
> <no_reply@y...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Hi chaille_f and all. Just been looking at message board
and
> > > > > realized I haven't been here since March of 2002...YIKES!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Time gets away from me for sure. Since the business with
> > > Harvey's
> > > > > potter baby episode, kind of got disgusted with him. But I
> got
> > > > > curious as to what he has been up to. A lot by the look of
> > > > > things....another new baby on the way....at his
age.....holey
> > > > > moley!!! I am 53 and can't imagine having a new baby in my
> > > > > life...let alone 2.....
> > > > >
> > > > > Haven't seen a movie with Harvey in it at the video store
for
> a
> > > > > longggg time. I still think the creepiest and saddest
movie
> he
> > > > ever
> > > > > made was Bad Lt. I saw the uncut version (NC17??). It was
> > > > > bad....and it is kind of unsettling that he would have his
> > > > babysitter
> > > > > and own daughter in the movie..ewwwwwww. What is his
> daughter
> > > > going
> > > > > to think when she sees that. My favorite all time movie of
> his
> > > is
> > > > > still "The Piano".
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone know what kind of man HK really is?? I would
> like
> > to
> > > > > think he is good and kind (and not warped too much.) I
guess
> > > these
> > > > > nagging questions are part of the reason I haven't been
here
> in
> > > > such
> > > > > a long time. In spite of all...I really like HK (told
hubby
> he
> > > is
> > > > > the only man I would ever leave him for..LOL!!!) Still
love
> > that
> > > > > smile and laugh....
> > > > >
> > > > > Well...I have rambled on long enough...Have a good day
all!
> > Snoak
> >
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