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Re: Basically a Misguided Effort

Well, now a staged comedy about our favorite ape and his (and our Fair
Lady Fay).......

Anything good enough to be still producing spawns almost 80 years
later, I would say, classifies as a classic. CGI or no CGI effects.

Read it for yourselves gang!

http://broadwayworld.com/viewcolumn.cfm?colid=9659











--- In faywray@yahoogroups.com, "Beverly Anne" <isa48_17@...> wrote:
>
> I can't help it, I still have to say it again and again....will
ANYONE be discussing KK'2005 75
> years from now or remember Naomi Watts performance?
>
> Yes, I respond to myself - but only when comparing to the orginal
KK'33 and that precious
> Lady on the Other Hand....Our Lady Fay!
>
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> --- In faywray@yahoogroups.com, "bennydrinnon" <bennydrinnon@> wrote:
> >
> > Looks like part of the problem here is that the writer of this
> > message wants to make a particular point and doesn't think anyone
> > else should differ with him.
> >
> > Since I didn't have any arguments about the idea that King Kong was
> > supposed to be a sympathetic charachter, I have no reason to argue
> > about that now.
> >
> > Since this is a club for Fay Wray, I also don't see any reason for
> > anyone to make arguments here that would tend to depict her in an
> > unfavorable light. - the living Fay Wray fan
> >
> >
> > --- In faywray@yahoogroups.com, tony crnkovich <tonycrnk@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > It is a well documented fact ( quotes galore ) that Merian C.
> > Cooper intended the audience to sympathize with Kong's plight
> > despite his ferocity, therefore it is not an overstatement to say
> > that Kong is the most sympathetic character in the film. Whenever
> > Ann Darrow is in peril it is Kong who springs to her rescue,
> > although she for her part never comes to appreciate this. Of course
> > her lack of appreciation can be justified, but that isn't the point;
> > the point is that Kong is totally misunderstood. There's even a
> > great bit of business in the film ( albeit very brief ) just before
> > the fight with the elasmosaurus where Kong picks up a flower, sniffs
> > it and is about to give it to Ann but is interrupted by her scream.
> > What would she think of Kong had he had the chance to give her the
> > flower? You really have to pay attention to catch this, but it's so
> > revealing of the benevolent side to Kong's nature. Also, Ann Darrow
> > doesn't die at the end; Kong does, and in a very tragic way at that.
> > > This is in no way intended to comment negatively on Fay Wray's
> > character in the film - on the contrary - I feel that this theme of
> > unrequited affection is one of the primary reasons for the original
> > film's timeless appeal, and this is due in large part to Fay Wray's
> > performance.
> > >
> > > bennydrinnon <bennydrinnon@> wrote: --- In
> > faywray@yahoogroups.com, "tonycrnk" <tonycrnk@y...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have seen Peter Jackson's remake of "KING KONG" and I came out
> > > of
> > > > the theater the same way I went in. That is to say my
> > expectations
> > > of
> > > > why this was a misguided ( albeit ambitious ) project were
> > > completely
> > > > and unsurprisingly fulfilled. I know that Jackson is a devoted
> > fan
> > > of
> > > > the original film as this is most obvious by his comments on the
> > > > DVD's extras, but I feel he really missed the mark with his
> > > rendition
> > > > of Cooper's original tale. Yes, the remake is definitely too
> > long.
> > > > The characters are all unneccesarilly padded out, and curiously
> > > > enough, this extra "character dimension" did nothing to make
> > them
> > > > more interesting for me. This is something that certain critcs
> > > would
> > > > like to lead people to believe - that deeper characterization is
> > > > always a good thing. Maybe, for some movies, but it works
> > against
> > > a
> > > > fable oriented film like "KING KONG". It's best to keep things
> > > simple
> > > > and direct, which is the secret behind anything that has ever
> > > > achieved a mythical and legendary status the way "KING KONG"
> > has.
> > > > Roger Ebert mentions in his review that Jackson's version
> > finally
> > > > presents a "flowering of possibilities" that the original never
> > > > approached, and that Fay Wray was never allowed the emotional
> > > range
> > > > in 1933 that Naomi Watts projects in the remake.
> > That "flowering",
> > > as
> > > > Ebert puts it, is precisely this remake's downfall as well as
> > the
> > > one
> > > > in '76. Do we really want to see Ann Darrow feel compassion for
> > > Kong?
> > > > Cooper intended that she never does, and this was a crucial and
> > > wise
> > > > decision because the result is that we feel much more sympathy
> > for
> > > > Kong at the end since he never was able to make his affection
> > for
> > > Ann
> > > > Darrow clear to her. He dies at the end a tragically
> > misunderstood
> > > > creature to everyone in the film, and it is only we, the
> > audience,
> > > > who really come to understand him. Furthermore, this fundamental
> > > > story element is what underlines the poignancy of the final
> > line ,
> > > It
> > > > was BEAUTY killed the Beast. As for Fay's performance, it is
> > > letter
> > > > perfect for me; she essays all aspects of the character -
> > > likeable,
> > > > innocent yet sexy, but strange hurtful in her rejection of Kong.
> > > >
> > > I don't understand how anyone could say that Fay Wray
> > was "hurtful"
> > > in "rejecting" a giant monster that kept carrying her off and
> > > subjecting her to various perils.
> > >
> > > I think the idea was that the charachter of King Kong was supposed
> > > to have a certain amount of pathos, like the monsters played by
> > Lon
> > > Chaney in silent movies, but you can take that sort of thing too
> > > far.
> > >
> > > My sympathies in this story would be entirely with the girl in the
> > > hairy paw. - the living Fay Wray fan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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I have seen Peter Jackson's remake of "KING KONG" and I came out of the theater the same way I went in. That is to say my expectations of why this was a...
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Dec 18, 2005
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... of ... of ... completely ... of ... rendition ... would ... a ... simple ... range ... as ... one ... Kong? ... wise ... Ann ... It ... letter ... ...
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Jan 10, 2006
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It is a well documented fact ( quotes galore ) that Merian C. Cooper intended the audience to sympathize with Kong's plight despite his ferocity, therefore it...
tony crnkovich
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Jan 10, 2006
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All I'll say for now, (thank goodness some of you are probably thinking), is that the proof is still in the pudding. Will Jackson's King Kong 2005 turn...
Beverly Anne
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Jan 11, 2006
4:53 am

Looks like part of the problem here is that the writer of this message wants to make a particular point and doesn't think anyone else should differ with him. ...
bennydrinnon
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Mar 13, 2006
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I can't help it, I still have to say it again and again....will ANYONE be discussing KK'2005 75 years from now or remember Naomi Watts performance? Yes, I...
Beverly Anne
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Mar 15, 2006
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Well, now a staged comedy about our favorite ape and his (and our Fair Lady Fay)....... Anything good enough to be still producing spawns almost 80 years ...
Beverly Anne
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May 16, 2006
5:29 am

Here's more on the new comedy on Kong and Fay Wray.... http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily/05-06/05-18-06/13coastin.htm May not be Shakespeare but shows the...
Beverly Anne
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May 20, 2006
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And another case in point on this other brief comment found in the 8th paragraph down in this article at: ...
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