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Re: [FayWray] Fay Wray's dress

Hello Bradford,
 
First thing we have to do is clear up the fact that King Kong does not belong to the "cine verismo" or "film noir" genre. It' a fable, more akin to "Snow White" than to "Rome, Open City", or "The Bicycle Thief". Therefor the sordid slant you assign to Ann Darrow's happy acceptance "to go on an ocean voyage with an ALL male crew" is as out of place as morally condemning Snow White's sharing a cottage with 7 men (however small). In this venue, Ann's choice of a "slinky" dress was merely to emphasize the "Beauty and the Beast" theme, and not to wantonly trigger the crew's lustful cravings.
 
Jose 
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From: Brad Jones
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: [FayWray] Fay Wray's dress

I've been silent for a while but have been keeping track
avidly all the time.  I'm currently stuck in Vancouver,
Canada not that far from Wrayland (ironically) since
September 11th, re-organising entry into the USA - This
fair, blond Australian was apparently mistaken as an
insurgent, and I wasn't even wearing my turban!  But
seriously, on the subject of DVD - The usual debate.  I'd
prefer they'd restore along the lines of the producers'
original vision and allow us to see a perfected masterpiece
- fix the fur rippling or something, use technology
constructively.  I'm afraid I'm a stickler for black & white
AS black & white.  The lighting, the chiaroscuro -
everything is DESIGNED for monochrome.  But I know we can't
fight THAT supposed progress.  If they have to colorise it
again and the dress color is contentious, why doesn't
somebody ask the Lady herself?  Or have I missed something?
I'd always seen it as a virginal cream or ivory following
Cooper's "woo" theory.  Do you really think he'd have opted
for little girl pink?  I mean, let's face it, he DIDN'T put
bows in her hair as was originally planned.  And Ann Darrow
was the sort of girl who was happy to go on an ocean voyage
with an ALL male crew and who picked THAT slinky beauty &
the beast costume for a screen test in front of them all
("It's the prettiest!").  I'm sorry, but I don't see Ann in
Pink.  She'd have dressed for the tropics in shades of
off-white and the buttons would have been brown
(Remember,Jean Harlow had been considered just as she was
coming into her seven-shades-of-white period, and over a
decade later Lana Turner was clothed in white to temper her
brooding sexuality in "The Postman Always Rings Twice" -
both platinum blondes).  Have I been opinionated enough yet?
Does everyone else really think it was pink?

Bradford Jones

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Hey all, Does anyone out there 'Wrayland' have any idea what color Fay Wray's dress was in "King Kong?" -- I'm thinking of the one Kong peels off on Skull ...
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Nov 30, 2001
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Hey yourself, Steve- Fay Wray's dress was a virginal pink, of course (wasn't it?) Opinionatedly yours, Jose ... From: Steven Bingen To: faywray@yahoogroups.com...
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Nov 30, 2001
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Dear Steve- I agree with Jose- light pink- except for the lacy collar which has to be white, and the buttons which are black. VERY IMPORTANT DETAIL- according...
Robert Nelson
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Nov 30, 2001
11:32 pm

Dear Robert, I hate to put a damper on your expectations, but I think there is little doubt that the much awaited King Kong DVD will, in effect, be colorized....
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Dec 1, 2001
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Ahoy all, Fear not, I am assured that the info regarding Fay's torn dress will not, repeat, will not be used to colorize the movie. I'm told that the DVD will...
Steven Bingen
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Dec 4, 2001
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I've been silent for a while but have been keeping track avidly all the time. I'm currently stuck in Vancouver, Canada not that far from Wrayland (ironically)...
Brad Jones
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Dec 7, 2001
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Hallelujah! My dismal fears are allayed! Fay (and Kong) reign supreme! Thanks, Steve, and kudos to Robert Nelson for his sharp sense of propriety! Jose ... ...
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Dec 4, 2001
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Hello Bradford, First thing we have to do is clear up the fact that King Kong does not belong to the "cine verismo" or "film noir" genre. It' a fable, more...
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Dec 7, 2001
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This is terrific. From our impassioned responses to Steve Bingen's query on the color of one dress, the profound impact of Fay Wray in general and of her most...
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Dec 8, 2001
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Somehow I have the uneasy feeling that "brucecabot" is, in reality, an impostor! Be that as it may, however, there is an important point that both he and his...
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Dec 8, 2001
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Hi Steve, The debate over Fay Wray's dress is a lot of fun and all, but the plain fact is that it was white, of course! Why? Because the film, "hang it", is in...
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Dec 8, 2001
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Steve here, (the brave soul who started all this pink-dress-white dress stuff!) Well, as interesting as all this is, I have to offer fair warning that as of...
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Dec 9, 2001
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OK guys. Yes, so far only males have ventured opinions. We know from Fay's autobiography that a nice lady in New York actually made and partly designed the...
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Dec 15, 2001
5:52 am

Hello Steve, You're absolutely right! As a result, the Gala Broadway Opening is a day that shall live in infamy! Ann should have worn the B&B costume, and Jack...
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Dec 9, 2001
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Brad, You make a some good points - and they are well taken. But I'm not sure where any of this leaves us, except in a pink (white?) haze. Maybe, (in a...
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Dec 15, 2001
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Hear! hear! Jose ... From: Steven Bingen To: faywray@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [FayWray] Fay Wray's dress Brad, ...
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