... Personally, when discussing Roman transliterations of Greek (which carry many of the same problems as Tengwar transliterations of English), I refer to such...
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laurifindil
Jun 1, 2002 1:16 pm
... Thank you very much for your reply....
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laurifindil
Jun 3, 2002 11:00 am
... Was it ... the ... LOTR, ... manuscripts. ... date, ... page ... was ... If I may continue about uur/uure. How could the name of that letter be written in...
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DDanielA@...
uialdil
Jun 3, 2002 2:38 pm
... used in Q. only for the ... I once proposed that perhaps the word/name 'úre' was originally written as 'u' curl over úre, a 'uw' diphthong representing...
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Arden R. Smith
erilaz7
Jun 4, 2002 6:57 am
When viewed in relation to the familiar 1960s application of the tengwar to Quenya, the names _úr(e)_ and _yanta_ are certainly anomalous. These names are...
934
laurifindil
Jun 4, 2002 9:29 pm
... can tell).
As you probably know, Tolkien changed the meaning of stem *UR- in "Etymologies" from "be hot" and derivative _œr_ "fire" to *UR- "wide,...
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laurifindil
Jun 4, 2002 9:32 pm
Dear Arden Smith, I have another question which has bothered me since I first read the "Lord of the Rings", some twenty years ago. The tengwa <anna>, if I...
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Gildor Inglorion
elfiness
Jun 4, 2002 11:01 pm
teithant laurifindil ... * if i remember well, anna was used as a carrier with words beginning with a vowel, thus anna too..the reasons are explained in Q&E...
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Carl F. Hostetter
endorendil
Jun 4, 2002 11:59 pm
Is it too much to ask that people acknowledge their sources? We would know _nothing_ about Rúmilian without the exacting and exemplary work of Arden Smith in...
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Gildor Inglorion
elfiness
Jun 5, 2002 12:16 am
teithant "Carl F. Hostetter" ... * oh yes.. i credited Rumil but not Arden Smith :))) not that i know him at all, since the informations i have come second...
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Carl F. Hostetter
endorendil
Jun 5, 2002 12:22 am
... I thought that might be the case. In fact, it appears to me that your work is based on an article by Helge Fauskanger in _Athelas_. An article in which ...
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laurifindil
Jun 5, 2002 11:24 am
... ? You don't. ? :( ... I know these sites... and if they are of some use for the newbies, the questions I'm asking are not. I have been stying these...
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laurifindil
Jun 5, 2002 11:28 am
... would know ... Arden ... Can't we ... the ... This is off topic.And what on Earth this has to do with my question about *feanorian* use of anna??? :( If...
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Carl F. Hostetter
endorendil
Jun 5, 2002 11:36 am
... No it isn't. ... Nothing. That's why I wasn't replying to you. I was replying to Gildor. ... This is not about grievance. It is about credit where credit...
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Gildor Inglorion
elfiness
Jun 5, 2002 10:18 pm
teithant laurifindil ... I think I do.. at least thats what i say in my quenta ... * .. and i think i manage to be calm :) I think my definition on the name...
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Arden R. Smith
erilaz7
Jun 6, 2002 7:57 am
... Not as far as I know. None of the manuscripts that contain lists of tengwar names are explicitly dated, and the textual clues in them cannot provide more...
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Arden R. Smith
erilaz7
Jun 6, 2002 7:57 am
... These uses are of course established in the published material. For those of you who might not be aware of this, Tolkien writes in Note 2 to "Noldorin...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Jun 6, 2002 9:34 am
... work is based on an article by Helge Fauskanger in _Athelas_. An article in which Arden Smith's name is mentioned not once. Imagine that. And imagine that...
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Carl F. Hostetter
endorendil
Jun 6, 2002 10:09 am
On 6/6/02 5:34 AM, "Helge K. Fauskanger" <helge.fauskanger@...> ... Thanks for the correction. I was away from my library at the time, and ...
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Gildor Inglorion
elfiness
Jun 6, 2002 1:59 pm
teithant "Carl F. Hostetter" ... * not that it matters at all, but I didn't represent analysis from Angerthas but from Amanye Tenceli by Mans Bjorkman who...
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Sébastien Bertho
lambendil
Jun 6, 2002 2:12 pm
Aiya ! I'm trying to come in this interesting discussion, but I hope it will not come to flame war... So please people calm down ! I agree with Carl Hostetter...
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Gildor Inglorion
elfiness
Jun 6, 2002 3:12 pm
teithant Sébastien_Bertho ... <boring "apologetic" reply following> it was based on Amanye Tenceli by Mans Bjorkman and also on Ryszard Derdzinsky's attempt...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Jun 7, 2002 8:12 am
... large, great" was probably no more than a passing fancy. Probably. It may be noted that according to a recent VT, the adjective _úra_ listed in this entry...
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laurifindil
Jun 7, 2002 9:29 am
... <snip> I would like to thank Arden Smith for his very thoughtful answers to my many questions....
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laurifindil
Jun 7, 2002 9:31 am
... wrote: <snip> ... None....
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Carl F. Hostetter
endorendil
Jun 7, 2002 11:43 am
On 6/7/02 4:12 AM, "Helge K. Fauskanger" <helge.fauskanger@...> ... Of course, it's by no means certain that the two _úra_s, with distinct meanings and...
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laurifindil
Jun 7, 2002 1:13 pm
... adjective ... instead (with ... ending _-ra_ ... adjectival ... distinct ... time ago). ... revisited ... evidence. ... And the word "Vanya" shows it......
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laurifindil
Jun 7, 2002 5:38 pm
... <snip> ... Do you mean that Tolkien actually stated that the word _anna_ was from another root/stem than that sated to be ANA(1) in Etymologies? Such as ...
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laurifindil
Jun 7, 2002 5:43 pm
... <snip> ... The "andatehta" (a big accent to show long vowel) was actually used in Quenya as well? So far, not a single published text in Quenya in tengwar...
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Arden R. Smith
erilaz7
Jun 8, 2002 9:13 am
... It's not that Tolkien forgot his rules, but that the rules were not absolute. Words like _hísie_ and _noldo_ were spelt etymologically, but they didn't...
