... But the Tale of Years (app. B of the Lord of the Rings) has the following entry for the year "c. 1000" of the Second Age: "Sauron, alarmed by the growing...
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calwen76
Mar 3, 2004 1:40 pm
BMO there are two possible ways how Sauron knew the mode on the One Ring, both assuming that he knew the mode already in the First Age: 1) the mode has nothing...
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lotr1121
Mar 4, 2004 12:02 am
Thanks to all who helped me with the transcription of my future tattoo :) I'm so excited to get it. Thanks again! I'm sure I will have other questions in the...
3532
aphadiol
Mar 4, 2004 7:43 am
... One ... by ... palatals + ... Tirith - ... for ... of ... _Tengwar_ ... want ... his ... counted ... It's quite nice but in the First Age the mode of...
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calwen76
Mar 4, 2004 8:36 am
... Why was the Beleriand mode invented? Because the tehta mode wasn't - by the lordmarsters' opinion - appropriate for SINDARIN. It is nowhere said that it...
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machhezan
Mar 4, 2004 4:24 pm
... We don't know what mode was used in the First Age, but we have to assume that in the Second Age, the people of Eregion used the mode known as "mode of...
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machhezan
Mar 5, 2004 12:18 am
... The line is thin, but it's after all a difference in aims: You can either aim at creating the easiest way of writing or at creating the most consistent...
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calwen76
Mar 5, 2004 11:00 am
... I know he wasn't. But I think it was his nature to learn such things, he was originally one of the Aule's Maiar. ... matters of 'magic', I mean, for short...
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machhezan
Mar 5, 2004 2:40 pm
... Was he? I only remember that he sat in Tol-in-Gaurhoth, the Isle of Werewolves. And there, he wasn't nice at all... You're right, he was a Maia of Aule,...
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displaced_gurl
Mar 5, 2004 3:26 pm
Hi. I just joined this ring in hopes that someone can help me translate a phrase. I've been doing numerous research on the language that was used on the ring...
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Carl F. Hostetter
endorendil
Mar 5, 2004 3:37 pm
"Therefore [Melkor] sought means to circumvent the _u'nat_ and the unwill. And this weapon he found in 'language'.... ".... For in days of old, when the Valar...
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calwen76
Mar 5, 2004 6:46 pm
... Thanks a lot for this. This can explain that Sauron had learnt Tengwar and Quenya from Morgoth. Lucy...
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machhezan
Mar 6, 2004 12:48 am
... They're as different as, for instance, Spanish is different from the Latin alphabet, since Quenya is a language and the tengwar (literally: 'letters') is a...
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legolas_greenleaf303
legolas_gree...
Mar 7, 2004 5:34 am
i was wondering are these sites right http://www.stormpages.com/axana/tengwar.html http://www.omniglot.com/writing/tengwar.htm and ...
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machhezan
Mar 7, 2004 12:13 pm
Thanks Carl, that's exactly the quote I was looking for, but I was unable to find it. It shows that the evil have only one interest in language: It's a tool...
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Carl F. Hostetter
endorendil
Mar 7, 2004 2:26 pm
... Exactly so; but then, nothing allows control of a mind other than the assent of the mind itself. And as Tolkien says, Melkor found in language an ideal...
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legolas_greenleaf303
legolas_gree...
Mar 7, 2004 6:57 pm
why is kw used instead of k same with nw and gw also why is y sometimes used for e why is there 2 ys in sindarin classic...
3546
d_daniel_andries@...
i_degilbor
Mar 7, 2004 8:15 pm
... I will try to give some answers according to what I think you're asking. (Note: Using a little punctuation can go a long way in making things clearer!) The...
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machhezan
Mar 7, 2004 9:09 pm
... Through language, he can't force people's "heart", but only their thoughts. I believe he'd prefer a tool that allowed him to force people's "heart"...
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legolas_greenleaf303
legolas_gree...
Mar 8, 2004 5:08 am
well this site http://www.geocities.com/fontmaster.geo/tengwar/sindar.htm is the one im useing http://www.mimas.ceti.pl/tengwar/ott/english.php im also use...
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elimloth
Mar 8, 2004 6:15 am
... one ... There is no best, but only different modes. Your examples are too vague, though I can explain the reason -ng is output as nwalme is that the...
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legolas_greenleaf303
legolas_gree...
Mar 8, 2004 6:41 am
im useing ott i did celebdring in sindarin classic i thought i would get noldo which is ing instead i get nwalme which ingw basically im trying learn elvish i...
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Melroch 'Aestan
melroch
Mar 8, 2004 7:03 am
... Really? Where in Tolkien have you seen that? /BP 8^) -- B.Philip Jonsson mailto:melrochX@... (delete X) ...
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d_daniel_andries@...
i_degilbor
Mar 8, 2004 7:31 am
... 'The Lord of the Rings', Appendix E: "The West-gate inscription illustrates a mode of 'full writing' with the vowels represented by separate letters. All...
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displaced_gurl
Mar 8, 2004 5:42 pm
Thanks for the response. The tattoo artist who is doing the tattoo for me is also, surprisingly, a Tolkien fan so he's going to help me translate the phrase...
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machhezan
Mar 8, 2004 7:47 pm
... There are three Sindarin modes attested by Tolkien. They differ basicly in the use of the third or the fourth tengwar series for k-sounds (k, g, ch, ng)...
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Melroch 'Aestan
melroch
Mar 8, 2004 7:59 pm
... Of course, though I think it was originally an Uure with subscript long carrier -- to indicate i-umlaut. When writing Swedish I have extended this use by...
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eamner
Mar 8, 2004 8:59 pm
Hello. I'm new to this group, so excuse me if this is the wrong place to post this question. I'd like to know how to write dates in Quenya (for example: ...
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calwen76
Mar 9, 2004 8:43 am
... place ... Yap, this group discusses writing systems. But to answer your question, don't forget that in Middle-earth there are different 'reckoning'...
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eamner
Mar 9, 2004 1:32 pm
Thanks for your kind answer. But, would you suggest any 'method' for adapting the dates of middle earth to fit in our age in order to translate, for example,...
