Hello, Do you have some urls for that? Bye Jeremie Knusel ... From: <DDanielA@...> To: <elfscript@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 7:28 PM...
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DDanielA@...
Apr 12, 2001 11:06 pm
Jeremie Knusel deithant: Do you have some urls for that? Sorry, Jeremie, but I did not see the French tengwar systems on the net...saw them in print. They are...
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Jeremie Knusel
elendur@...
Apr 13, 2001 2:51 pm
Hello, Here is a list of all difficulties and alternatives I've found in writing Quenya with the tengwar (thanks to Måns Björkman for his help). Could you ...
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DDanielA@...
Apr 13, 2001 4:30 pm
Well, there are bound to be differences of opinion until more of JRRT's tengwar specimens surface. Here's where my opinions differ from the ones Jeremie...
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DDanielA@...
Apr 13, 2001 5:13 pm
Lisa Star deithant: I personally would stick to the mode that Tolkien used on the title page of LotR, because it is most widely available, and is actually for...
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Stephen Ross
Monkeyboy007@...
Apr 13, 2001 5:35 pm
I've been haunting around this list for a bit now, but I must confess that I don't know either of Tolkien's elvish languages! I can write in tengwar just...
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Jeremie Knusel
elendur@...
Apr 13, 2001 7:37 pm
... But since it was renamed to aha, wouldn't that mean that words previously written with harma as first tengwa (like harma) became written with hyarmen? ... ...
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Jeremie Knusel
elendur@...
Apr 13, 2001 9:14 pm
Hello, The most famous site for learning Tolkien's languages is probably ardalambion: www.uib.no/People/hnohf Jeremie ... From: "Stephen Ross"...
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Angasule
angasule@...
Apr 13, 2001 10:24 pm
... Quenya is a lot easier to learn than Sindarin (and I do mean a lot) and we know more about it's grammar and have more vocabulary for it, also, what you...
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Angasule
angasule@...
Apr 13, 2001 10:55 pm
... I'd use only rómen in this case, since it's an initial r, still I don't have any more base to it :) ... ohloni (the attested plural, I don't know if the...
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Angasule
angasule@...
Apr 13, 2001 10:55 pm
... In his description he mentions old uses, so indeed, thúle for th, and súle for s < th :) ... ng in anga and ng in ngoldo are not the same thing! in anga...
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DDanielA@...
Apr 14, 2001 2:44 am
Jeremie Knusel deithant: But since it was renamed to aha, wouldn't that mean that words previously written harma as first tengwa (like harma) became written...
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Angasule
angasule@...
Apr 14, 2001 3:53 am
... Does he say that? Can you quote? I lent my lotr, and it's in spanish anyway (they sometimes don't translate whole phrases :/ ). The sound ñ by itself...
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Jeremie Knusel
elendur@...
Apr 14, 2001 9:35 am
... I can't find where I saw it but as example, in the "dictionnaire des langues elfiques", p. 113, there is a tengwar transcribe of "menelluin irildeo ...
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Jeremie Knusel
elendur@...
Apr 14, 2001 10:30 am
... In appendix E, it's said: "Thus No. 11 was called harma when it represented the spirant ch in all positions, but when this sound became breath h initially...
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Ales Bican
bican@...
Apr 14, 2001 4:30 pm
... **You are right about <lambe> + <umbar> for the combination -lv-, and you would get -lb-. Tolkien said that for -lv- not -lw-. The example _omentielvo_ is...
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Jeremie Knusel
elendur@...
Apr 14, 2001 7:19 pm
... There is a mail in the tolklang archive whose topic is: 'Dot below' tehta = "no vowel" (Vinyar Tengwar #25 p6) ...
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DDanielA@...
Apr 14, 2001 11:38 pm
Angasule deithant: Does he say that? Can you quote? … The sound ñ by itself doesn't occur medially in Quenya outside of clusters, AFAIK I wish I remembered...
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Angasule
angasule@...
Apr 15, 2001 7:06 am
... Is the 'ui' written as a diphthong or how? If there's just an 'u' tehta then the underdot could be the previous 'i'? If not it must be a final e as Ales...
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Angasule
angasule@...
Apr 15, 2001 7:06 am
... Is ñalta identified as a Quenya word? I ask because I have doubts about the behaviour of initial Ñ, the only example I knew was ñolme > holme which...
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Angasule
angasule@...
Apr 15, 2001 7:06 am
... Since words that begin with noldo come from original ng-, with an augment they would go from ñ- to augment-ng-. In case original ñ- remained so and...
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Jeremie Knusel
elendur@...
Apr 15, 2001 10:10 am
... Tolkien ... langues ... last ... There is a 'u' tehta above lambe, and a 'i' tehta on a short carrier Jeremie...
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Jeremie Knusel
elendur@...
Apr 15, 2001 10:41 am
... To take Tolkien as his word, he didn't talk about "initial aha" but about "initial breath h"... I give the quote again: "Thus No. 11 was called harma when...
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Jeremie Knusel
elendur@...
Apr 15, 2001 10:47 am
... Right, about that I was given the example "ñolmo -> lambengolmo" Jeremie...
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Ales Bican
bican@...
Apr 15, 2001 7:27 pm
... **Yes, it is. Primitive (CE) form is given as ñalatá, and its scions are Quenya _ñalta_, Telerin _alata_ and Sindarin _galad_. ... **I would say it is a...
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DDanielA@...
Apr 15, 2001 10:09 pm
A propos, Jérémie, est-ce que tu as vu http://www.multimania.com/lafee/quenya_tengwar.html ? C'est une explication, écrite en français, d'utiliser les...
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Angasule
angasule@...
Apr 16, 2001 2:00 am
... Yes, it was the most likely, confirming it is good, though! ... Envinyatar can be exaplained as a late construction, but análie is definitely the way to...
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Harri Perälä
harri.perala@...
Apr 16, 2001 9:14 am
It seems that quite many people would like to create simple Tengwar inscriptions with a font, even though they haven't studied the script itself. I've been...
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Mans Bjorkman
mansb@...
Apr 16, 2001 10:05 am
Hello people! Sorry I'm late. ... Since _hr_ must always be followed by a vowel I think _r_ would always be written with <rómen>, if the system of the...
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Mans Bjorkman
mansb@...
Apr 16, 2001 10:05 am
... Quite true. However, I strongly believe <halla> was, at least, a valid alternative still in the Third Age. The footnote says: "... [halla] could be placed...
