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Amanye Tenceli update: The General Use   Message List  
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Re: [elfscript] Re: Amanye Tenceli update: The General Use


On Jun 24, 2005, at 2:20 AM, j_mach_wust wrote:

> The question is not about English phonology, but about témar use:
> According to Helios' hypothesis, the original use would be calmatéma
> as k-row and quessetéma as qu-row, whereas the "general use" with
> calmatéma as ch-row and quessetéma as k-row would be a later
> innovation.

Let me rephrase it, then: The témar of the 1930s-vintage "General or
Phonetic form" are assigned to the same points of articulation as in
the usual Quenya mode, as per Helios' hypothesis.

> (always looking forward to more of your interesting
> and well analyzed publications!)

Thank you! The material from the late 1920s, which I'm currently
preparing for publication, contains some very interesting stuff, as
well as plenty of grist for the discussion mill!

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Sat Jun 25, 2005 5:12 am

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Fellow Sarmendili! I have today added to Amanye Tenceli a first attempt at describing the Tengwar mode known as General Use. Partly as a consequence of this, ...
Måns Björkman
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Jun 14, 2005
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Måns Björkman wrote: ... ... Thank you very much for this excellent description! Amanye Tenceli, which has been, already before this update, the best...
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Jun 23, 2005
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... Sorry, but that manuscript describes quite a different mode, one that definitely does not take English phonology into account. ...
Arden R. Smith
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Jun 24, 2005
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Arden R. Smith wrote: ... ... The question is not about English phonology, but about témar use: According to Helios' hypothesis, the original use would be...
j_mach_wust
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Jun 24, 2005
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... Let me rephrase it, then: The témar of the 1930s-vintage "General or Phonetic form" are assigned to the same points of articulation as in the usual...
Arden R. Smith
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Jun 25, 2005
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... Thank you very much for your detailed criticism! Since, as I predicted, the flaws are numerous, I shall digest your comments over the following days as...
Måns Björkman
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Jun 27, 2005
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On June 23, J. "Mach" Wust wrote a long criticism of my description of the General Use at Amanye Tenceli. I am still working with many of his excellent...
Måns Björkman
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Sep 3, 2005
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Excellent analysis, Måns! ... When I provided the readings of the words to Wayne and Christina, I was of course aware of _gladiolus_ as a plant name, but I...
Arden R. Smith
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... In Letters 306 he wrote: "So I grew up in a two-front state, symbolizable by the Oratorian Italian pronunciation of Latin, and the strictly 'philological'...
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... The official Latin pronunciation of the RC church is simply the Italian one, with _c_ and _g_ as [tS] and [dZ] before front vowels, with _ti_ + vowel as...
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... In ecclestiastical Latin pronunciation, initial consonantal _i_ is peronounced /j/. It is often spelt _j_ as well (e.g. _Jesu_ rather than _Iesu_, _jam_...
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Sep 5, 2005
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Mellyn, Based on Wust's comments, I have now extensively revised the overview and General Use Tengwar descriptions on Amanye Tenceli ...
Måns Björkman
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Sep 5, 2005
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Måns Björkman wrote: ... English phonology, Latin language. Fair enough. ... As I've said in message #4456, I imagine there might be an interdependence...
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Sep 6, 2005
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... It certainly is, though not as exotic as the "halla-rómen ligature". And as regards my article, I figured I should try to include every known value of the...
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