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Re: [collectivechaosblr] Is it Fascism or Regionalism ??



On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Manu Vilsan <manuvilsan@...> wrote:

Is Bangalore for Kannadigas alone?




No.
 

Is the number plate in a vehicle, a means to show our regional farce?


What does 'regional farce' mean?

These are the questions hunted me, in the aftermath of my recent visit of Bangalore city.


You must have a lot of free time, then. The questions that haunt me, usually, after a visit to a city are:- why is it so crowded(Bangalore/Bombay)? Why is it so dirty(Pune)? Why is it unfriendly yet nice(Delhi)?

And you have some unfriendly questions, if they hunt you, rather than haunting you.
 

I am a citizen of India and a permanent resident of Kerala.



Kerala offers state citizenships nowadays? That's nice, and sort of illegal.
 

I had visited the Bangalore city, recently. I feel that the regionalist approach is utmost in Bangalore.


You haven't been to Tamil Nadu or Maharashtra, then, I presume.

 I do share an observation.


You've shared six.
 

  1. It is regarding the number plates...Registration number in Kannada numerical. This is absurd and ridiculous.
  2. The number plate in a vehicle is not a means to show our regional farce....
  3. But, it is a common phenomenon in Bangalore...Here 2 questions are necessary.
    • What is the purpose of a number plate?
    • Is it a means to show our regional farce? 
  1. The purpose, as I understood, is to make others.....
  2. The regionalism is everywhere in the country and even our Politicians and intelligentia has acknowledged it as a social reality. It may be a moot question whether genuinely we have 'unity in diversity' or not. But when we come to this specific issue, I am sad, because, it may not happen in a Federal Republic Country. It is an invasion to the individual right. Right to do an act ought to be subjected to the rights of others to know. Then only the act can be called as a reasonable one. In absence of said reasonableness, the same shall be mere absurdity.

 
  1. If a vehicle bearing Kannada Registration No. may hit and run, then no one can identify that number, unless he knows Kannada Numerical. So, before entering Bangalore, it cast a duty on all foreigners, (Foreigner includes all those do not Kannada) to by heart Kannada Numerical.

Now this is a valid point. Well done, sir. Having just the Kannada alphabet and numerals on the license plate helps miscreants get away with murder, as you've said.
 
  • I do not know, why the law enforcing authority is not addressing this sensitive issue.

Problem is, the law enforcing authorities understand Kannada numerals and have no problem, so they assume no one else has a problem either. It's a universal phenomenon. "I don't have a problem, so I don't see why anyone else has to have a problem with it."
 
  •  I do not know why the intelligentia of our group is silent on this issue

Because they have better things to do? Seriously, this close to the Mumbai terror attacks and amidst an economic meltdown, you think anyone would take the number plates issue seriously?



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Hi I hope I am not stirring a hornet's nest here but on my trip to Kerala last week I noticed a similar issue. All shops had their boards only in malayalam....
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