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Oh come on you two - it was a good film.......

AAHHHHHHHHAHHHHHHHHHHHHAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

God it was bad, but the real question is - was it worse the an the
Howling VI?

I know which one I would rather watch.....

Ant.


--- In celluloidsuicide@yahoogroups.com, "Rudi" <ruud@b...> wrote:
>
Bluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Check out my new anti gates pictures.

AAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
SHITTING CRIKEY

Do you think I should add that tosser Chris Evans to the poll?


--- In celluloidsuicide@yahoogroups.com, "bill_gates_isapieceofshit"
<Robert_Guppy@h...> wrote:
> Robbie certainly has the least tallent.

Robbie certainly has the least tallent.

Feel free to discuss this poll, it's not an easy one - they all have
Ego's the size of planets (or bigger perhaps) Some may argue that
because Robbie Tosser Williams often complains that he doesn't like
himself or he doesn't think his music is that good that he is humble -
quite the opposite his ego is SO FUCKING BIG that he pulls these
stunts for more publicity.

Please try to present evidence for whoever you vote for.

Ant.




--- In celluloidsuicide@yahoogroups.com,
celluloidsuicide@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
> Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
> celluloidsuicide group:
>
> Who has the most unstoppable, unbreakable over infalted and
> enormous ego ever from this group of lucky but deluded stars
> with absolutely no talent whatsoever?
>
>   o William Shatner aka 'The Shat'
>   o David Hasselhoff aka 'the Hoff' or 'Hass'
>   o Robbie Williams aka 'annoying little tosser'
>
>
> To vote, please visit the following web page:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/celluloidsuicide/surveys?id=1163623
>
> Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
> not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
> web site listed above.
>
> Thanks!

Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
celluloidsuicide group:

Who has the most unstoppable, unbreakable over infalted and
enormous ego ever from this group of lucky but deluded stars
with absolutely no talent whatsoever?

   o William Shatner aka 'The Shat'
   o David Hasselhoff aka 'the Hoff' or 'Hass'
   o Robbie Williams aka 'annoying little tosser'


To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/celluloidsuicide/surveys?id=1163623

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!

Hi,

Talking of Hass's ego check this out...

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_860540.html?menu=news.quirkies

What a guy...

Cheers,
Mitch

Hi,

Talking of Hass's ego check this out...

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_860540.html?menu=news.quirkies

What a guy...

Cheers,
Mitch

Well I imagine that award has inflated his already collosal ego to the
size of a planet. I recently watched the pilot of Nightrider - classic
- so badly made that you have to LOVE it.

Ant.

Awesome, I will downerload it now.

BTW Bill gates blows goats - and that is a FACT.

Ant.

--- In celluloidsuicide@yahoogroups.com, "bill_gates_isapieceofshit"
<Robert_Guppy@h...> wrote:
> Just incase you hadn;t already noticed there is a new patch out for
> LFS S2 demo. Still no more cars or tracks though. I just hope the cars
> are fully damageable now.

Just incase you hadn;t already noticed there is a new patch out for
LFS S2 demo. Still no more cars or tracks though. I just hope the cars
are fully damageable now.

Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
celluloidsuicide group:

As many of you know EA's lastest discrace "ned for speed"
need for speed 2 has caused alot of upset, illness and is
some cases suicide. Due to the abortions of cars and drone
of dreadful gangster slap. Because of this all copys will
have to be called back for mass burning. What do you think
of this?

   o Thank fuck for that ill be at the burning
   o Not bothered
   o WTF init i luv dat gam ul av ta figt me for it
   o Any chance we could burn all owners as well


To vote, please visit the following web page:
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Thanks!

It would be well worth getting - I will see if I can download it.... :)

Rangi, I like the picture - who is it ACTUALLY?

Ant.

-----Original Message-----
From: celluloidsuicide@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:celluloidsuicide@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rudi
Sent: 30 April 2005 00:24
To: celluloidsuicide@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [celluloidsuicide] The Shat

Greetings,

Shit!  That picture of the Shat is so good.  His two sidekicks are
equally
awesome, I wonder if TJ Hooker is available on DVD?  It could be uniform
bursting hilarious.

Cheers,
Bruce Boxshatner





Yahoo! Groups Links

It would be well worth getting - I will see if I can download it.... :)

Rangi, I like the picture - who is it ACTUALLY?

Ant.

-----Original Message-----
From: celluloidsuicide@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:celluloidsuicide@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rudi
Sent: 30 April 2005 00:24
To: celluloidsuicide@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [celluloidsuicide] The Shat

Greetings,

Shit!  That picture of the Shat is so good.  His two sidekicks are
equally
awesome, I wonder if TJ Hooker is available on DVD?  It could be uniform
bursting hilarious.

Cheers,
Bruce Boxshatner





Yahoo! Groups Links

Greetings,

Shit!  That picture of the Shat is so good.  His two sidekicks are equally
awesome, I wonder if TJ Hooker is available on DVD?  It could be uniform
bursting hilarious.

Cheers,
Bruce Boxshatner

Anyone feel free to post up pictures of the Shat or the Hass in the
pictures section. I have just uploaded a picture of the great Shat in
his police uniform looking AWESOME.

Ant.

Awesome, now I need the post when Zodak returns...

Ant.

-----Original Message-----
From: celluloidsuicide@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:celluloidsuicide@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rudi
Sent: 28 April 2005 22:31
To: celluloidsuicide@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [celluloidsuicide] More 3DO4Life...

I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.198.72
Posted on November 26, 2001 at 11:11:13 AM by Zodak

Just to let everyone know, I've finally saved up for a second hand
PlayStation and a copy of Who
Wants To Be a Millionaire? So I'm putting the 3DO away in the loft. I'll
see
you all later,
sometime. As ever I'll keep you all, and the 3DO in my heart - always.
Ciao,
Lord Zodak.


Re(1): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.67.68
Posted on November 29, 2001 at 09:18:17 AM by Emperor Kodaz High
Predator of
the Draksai
dominion

Listen Zodak, dont be ridiculous now.
Draksais only use 3DO, we DO NOT USE Playstations.


Re(2): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.67.70
Posted on November 29, 2001 at 01:50:01 PM by Dave Zodak

This is the sort of silly message that has forced me to quit the 3DO 4
Life
message board. But it
seems that I'm fated to ever be drawn back in, never to escape this foul
addiction.


Re(1): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.198.72
Posted on November 26, 2001 at 11:13:47 AM by GiD3On

Later Squid Head, dude!!!
Even though we didn't really get along it really blows to hear that
you're
leaving the 3DO scene.
You won't be missed but keep it easy anyway man!!!
3DO ROCKS!!!


Re(2): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 212.137.198.17
Posted on November 26, 2001 at 11:31:04 AM by jaguaraholic

Just buy a Jaguar, dont bother with the playstation, its only 32bit.


Re(3): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.198.71
Posted on November 30, 2001 at 07:24:44 PM by 3UAR

It's only 16-bit really. At least that's what this guy on the market
told
me, who convinced me
to buy an FZ-10 from him. The FZ-10 was the first 128-bit machine.


Re(3): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.198.71
Posted on November 27, 2001 at 06:18:14 AM by Zodak

I refuse to get involved with your petty squabbles. I'm leaving the 3DO
scene and this message
board.
Tootle-pip,
Lord Dave Zodak


Re(4): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.194.11
Posted on November 27, 2001 at 11:39:36 AM by
DerekFree@...

You are an idiot Zodak, I will be glad to be rid of you.


Re(5): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.198.71
Posted on November 30, 2001 at 07:27:02 PM by 3UAR

I have to agree - You could have got a MegaCD or something cool instead.

Re(5): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.67.69
Posted on November 28, 2001 at 08:44:49 AM by chancey

I will personally miss old Zodak. Hes provided the message board with
clarity and truth like no
other person has.


Re(6): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.198.71
Posted on November 30, 2001 at 07:28:24 PM by 3UAR

What nonsense Chancey. It is I who have done those things.


Re(5): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.67.69
Posted on November 28, 2001 at 08:41:12 AM by chancey

I will personally miss old Zodak. Hes provided the message board with
clarity and truth like no
other person has.

Re(6): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.67.70
Posted on November 29, 2001 at 01:54:29 PM by Dave Zodak

Thank you for your kind words. I'm only sorry that you have the brain of
a
Robbie Williams fan -
It some how devalues what you say.

Re(7): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 62.188.213.125
Posted on November 29, 2001 at 03:40:15 PM by Chancey

These comments have left me bewildered and feeling pain inside the very
depths of my body and
heart, I feel I can no longer function as an individual on the message
board
any longer and I
have lost my faith in 3do. Why Zodak? Why did you Do this too me, you
have
broken my heart
abghhhhhh uhuhuhhuuuuuu
?^ >uitrritrrrreytuuuuuueytruoyu8kicfy768
678867677777777777777rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


Re(7): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 62.188.209.13
Posted on November 29, 2001 at 03:29:29 PM by old man

now that wasnt very nice Zodak, shame you only have the brain of Robbie
himself.


Re(6): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 24.4.172.59
Posted on November 28, 2001 at 08:50:32 PM by Jay

Man Sony is evil get a Dreamcast for 50bucks and 8dollar games that
rival
anything on the
playstation2


Re(7): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.198.71
Posted on November 30, 2001 at 07:32:57 PM by 3UAR

Jay, Jay, Jay. Ran tells me you're into Lady Boys these days. I think
this
is more twisted than
the evil things Sony does.

Re(8): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 24.4.172.59
Posted on November 30, 2001 at 10:51:04 PM by Jay

Whos ran?


Re(7): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.67.70
Posted on November 29, 2001 at 01:51:44 PM by Dave Zodak

Sorry I've spent all my money on the PlayStation. And besides I don't
think
your advice is very
reliable.


Re(8): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.198.71
Posted on November 30, 2001 at 07:37:01 PM by 3UAR

Too right his advice ain't reliable. I heard of this guy called Jay
(might
not be the same one
of course) that went round suggesting that everyone ought to buy an
XBox!
And to cap it off he
said Bill Gates could be his boy any day. Well I'm sure this isn't the
same
Jay but he sure seems
similar. Anyone know the truth?


Re(9): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 24.4.172.59
Posted on November 30, 2001 at 10:50:07 PM by Jay

Dont own an Xbox myself but have played one and it was "ok" bascially
they
got halo wich is a
great FPS for a console but compared to a FPS on a PC its just ok.
Consoles
need to stick to
what they are good at and leave the rest to a PC.

Re(10): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.67.70
Posted on December 10, 2001 at 08:36:31 AM by Jonathon Redsell

Good on Bill Gates and Microsoft, I have heard that the Xbox is the new
3DO!!!!! I doubt it
could be that good though.






Yahoo! Groups Links

I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.198.72
Posted on November 26, 2001 at 11:11:13 AM by Zodak

Just to let everyone know, I've finally saved up for a second hand
PlayStation and a copy of Who
Wants To Be a Millionaire? So I'm putting the 3DO away in the loft. I'll see
you all later,
sometime. As ever I'll keep you all, and the 3DO in my heart - always.
Ciao,
Lord Zodak.


Re(1): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.67.68
Posted on November 29, 2001 at 09:18:17 AM by Emperor Kodaz High Predator of
the Draksai
dominion

Listen Zodak, dont be ridiculous now.
Draksais only use 3DO, we DO NOT USE Playstations.


Re(2): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.67.70
Posted on November 29, 2001 at 01:50:01 PM by Dave Zodak

This is the sort of silly message that has forced me to quit the 3DO 4 Life
message board. But it
seems that I'm fated to ever be drawn back in, never to escape this foul
addiction.


Re(1): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.198.72
Posted on November 26, 2001 at 11:13:47 AM by GiD3On

Later Squid Head, dude!!!
Even though we didn't really get along it really blows to hear that you're
leaving the 3DO scene.
You won't be missed but keep it easy anyway man!!!
3DO ROCKS!!!


Re(2): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 212.137.198.17
Posted on November 26, 2001 at 11:31:04 AM by jaguaraholic

Just buy a Jaguar, dont bother with the playstation, its only 32bit.


Re(3): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.198.71
Posted on November 30, 2001 at 07:24:44 PM by 3UAR

It's only 16-bit really. At least that's what this guy on the market told
me, who convinced me
to buy an FZ-10 from him. The FZ-10 was the first 128-bit machine.


Re(3): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.198.71
Posted on November 27, 2001 at 06:18:14 AM by Zodak

I refuse to get involved with your petty squabbles. I'm leaving the 3DO
scene and this message
board.
Tootle-pip,
Lord Dave Zodak


Re(4): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.194.11
Posted on November 27, 2001 at 11:39:36 AM by DerekFree@...

You are an idiot Zodak, I will be glad to be rid of you.


Re(5): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.198.71
Posted on November 30, 2001 at 07:27:02 PM by 3UAR

I have to agree - You could have got a MegaCD or something cool instead.

Re(5): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.67.69
Posted on November 28, 2001 at 08:44:49 AM by chancey

I will personally miss old Zodak. Hes provided the message board with
clarity and truth like no
other person has.


Re(6): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.198.71
Posted on November 30, 2001 at 07:28:24 PM by 3UAR

What nonsense Chancey. It is I who have done those things.


Re(5): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.67.69
Posted on November 28, 2001 at 08:41:12 AM by chancey

I will personally miss old Zodak. Hes provided the message board with
clarity and truth like no
other person has.

Re(6): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.67.70
Posted on November 29, 2001 at 01:54:29 PM by Dave Zodak

Thank you for your kind words. I'm only sorry that you have the brain of a
Robbie Williams fan -
It some how devalues what you say.

Re(7): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 62.188.213.125
Posted on November 29, 2001 at 03:40:15 PM by Chancey

These comments have left me bewildered and feeling pain inside the very
depths of my body and
heart, I feel I can no longer function as an individual on the message board
any longer and I
have lost my faith in 3do. Why Zodak? Why did you Do this too me, you have
broken my heart
abghhhhhh uhuhuhhuuuuuu
?^ >uitrritrrrreytuuuuuueytruoyu8kicfy768
678867677777777777777rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


Re(7): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 62.188.209.13
Posted on November 29, 2001 at 03:29:29 PM by old man

now that wasnt very nice Zodak, shame you only have the brain of Robbie
himself.


Re(6): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 24.4.172.59
Posted on November 28, 2001 at 08:50:32 PM by Jay

Man Sony is evil get a Dreamcast for 50bucks and 8dollar games that rival
anything on the
playstation2


Re(7): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.198.71
Posted on November 30, 2001 at 07:32:57 PM by 3UAR

Jay, Jay, Jay. Ran tells me you're into Lady Boys these days. I think this
is more twisted than
the evil things Sony does.

Re(8): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 24.4.172.59
Posted on November 30, 2001 at 10:51:04 PM by Jay

Whos ran?


Re(7): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.67.70
Posted on November 29, 2001 at 01:51:44 PM by Dave Zodak

Sorry I've spent all my money on the PlayStation. And besides I don't think
your advice is very
reliable.


Re(8): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.198.71
Posted on November 30, 2001 at 07:37:01 PM by 3UAR

Too right his advice ain't reliable. I heard of this guy called Jay (might
not be the same one
of course) that went round suggesting that everyone ought to buy an XBox!
And to cap it off he
said Bill Gates could be his boy any day. Well I'm sure this isn't the same
Jay but he sure seems
similar. Anyone know the truth?


Re(9): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 24.4.172.59
Posted on November 30, 2001 at 10:50:07 PM by Jay

Dont own an Xbox myself but have played one and it was "ok" bascially they
got halo wich is a
great FPS for a console but compared to a FPS on a PC its just ok. Consoles
need to stick to
what they are good at and leave the rest to a PC.

Re(10): I'm leaving the 3DO scene.
IP: 195.92.67.70
Posted on December 10, 2001 at 08:36:31 AM by Jonathon Redsell

Good on Bill Gates and Microsoft, I have heard that the Xbox is the new
3DO!!!!! I doubt it
could be that good though.

Hi,
In all it's disgusting glory...


Possible new game development
IP: 62.188.213.96
Posted on November 18, 2001 at 10:13:59 AM by Jonathon Redsell

Hi I am the owner of a small game publishing company called LIQUID NEUMONIA.
I am a massive 3DO
fan and my great aunt recently passed away and left me her fortune, this
meant I could finally
fulfill my dreams and begin to develop some games for the system. Obviously
we would want to
continue in the spirit of the games with lots of FMV, top acting and great
plots. any feedback or
ideas would be greatly appreciated and I will keep my eyes on this message
board. Keep up the
good work with site, and remember the tank can roll again!!!!



Posted on November 24, 2001 at 10:37:08 PM by Jay

What would be even more helpfull than a new game to the system would be some
sortof software
development kit released to the public. If all the tools were availve to the
public for making
new games that would run on any 3DO we would see alot of new stuff coming
and a major bost in
3DO activity, most of it would be crap but at least it would be new. Just
look at the Dreamcast
everything is availbe to make your own games and there are tons of homemade
stuff like emulaters
and game ports around and that system isnt even that long dead.



Re(2): Possible new game development
IP: 195.92.198.72
Posted on November 26, 2001 at 11:02:15 AM by Ran

No that would be a terrible idea. How are we ever going to attract back the
big names such as
DOmark if the 3DO looks like a machine for amateurs to make crap Pac Man
clones on?



Posted on November 28, 2001 at 09:05:09 PM by Jay

Yea it would suck if a bunch of fags like you with no knowlege of anything
other than there
finger up there ass made the games.



Re(1): Possible new game development
IP: 24.4.172.59
Posted on November 24, 2001 at 02:52:50 AM by Jay

Also a new gun game would be the best, but with the guns costing so much I
doubt enough people
would buy the game.



Re(2): Possible new game development
IP: 195.92.198.72
Posted on November 26, 2001 at 11:04:32 AM by Ran

So it wouldn't really be the best would it? At least not financially.



Re(3): Possible new game development
IP: 24.4.172.59
Posted on November 28, 2001 at 09:03:46 PM by Jay

From a game play standpoint yes it would be the best homo.




IP: 24.4.172.59
Posted on November 24, 2001 at 02:50:17 AM by Jay

If you ever played Metal warriors for the Snes you will agree it had the
best multiplayer ever.
If somthing similar was done for the 3DO the levels could be much larger and
support more
players.



IP: 195.92.198.72
Posted on November 26, 2001 at 11:05:58 AM by Ran

Wouldn't it just be easier to buy a second hand Snes and a copy of metal
warriors?



IP: 24.4.172.59
Posted on November 28, 2001 at 09:02:38 PM by Jay

(The below is aimed at Ryan for his comments above not anyone else)

Why do you post on the board? Why do you bother with 3DO? WOuldnt it be
easier to get a job and
buy a 50 dollar Dreamcast with a massive game list and graphics that are
better than Ps2 than
fuck with the 3DO?

The thread was on game ideas and since metal warriors deathmatch was some of
the greatest game
play on a simple system it would work well on the 3DO. Did you see me say
lets port metal
warriors exactly no i said a game liek it but better since the 3DO can
handle more, but then
again you are a dumb ass FAG so go fuck yourself up the ass with your
sisters dick please.



Posted on November 29, 2001 at 03:45:36 PM by Ran

You're not very accurate are you Jay? Firstly my name is Ran not Ryan. Also
what is all this
about a 50 dollar Dreamcast? You sound like you know more about 50 dollar
rent boys to be honest.
And my sister doesn't have a dick - Is it your experience with Lady Boys
that has caused your
confusion?



Re(4): Possible new game development
IP: 62.188.209.13
Posted on November 29, 2001 at 03:27:28 PM by old man

Hey Jay, its you who is homo here.
Ran is one gorgeous girl and I can get her points, You can cast many stones
jay but if the world
runs dry then does your wish. You are a complete arse bandit now go away and
leave me and ran in
peace.



Re(5): Possible new game development
IP: 62.188.213.125
Posted on November 29, 2001 at 03:44:07 PM by Chancey

people being horrid to each other is the root of all evil in this world, why
cant we just live in
peace. I love you all guys please lets not all argue like this.



Re(4): Possible new game development
IP: 62.188.209.26
Posted on November 29, 2001 at 03:17:40 PM by derek_freeman@...

hey Jay calm down, I know ran and she is a total slut who wears to much
lipstick and flirts with
ill mannered farm hands.



Re(4): Possible new game development
IP: 62.188.209.26
Posted on November 29, 2001 at 02:51:30 PM by Jonathon Redsell

well said jay, its silly for someone like ran to be on this message board
when there so negative
about the 3do vibe.



Re(1): Possible new game development
IP: 24.4.172.59
Posted on November 23, 2001 at 09:18:25 PM by Anonymous

Also you should open your own messaeg board if your really going to make
games, this board is
horible crap we need a nice UBB or VBB this one i sjust crap crap crap crap
crap crap crap crap.



Re(2): Possible new game development
IP: 195.92.198.72
Posted on November 26, 2001 at 11:07:03 AM by GiD3On

You watch your mouth man!!!



Re(3): Possible new game development
IP: 212.137.198.17
Posted on November 26, 2001 at 11:51:08 AM by Ant Viturbo

yeah gideon might slip something nasty and smelly into it!



IP: 24.4.172.59
Posted on November 23, 2001 at 09:16:32 PM by Anonymous

Since you got so much money now will you buy me a nice HDTV so i can play my
3DO in stlye.



Re(2): Possible new game development
IP: 195.92.168.164
Posted on November 27, 2001 at 03:45:31 PM by solid

I know a game we would all love UTT
ultimt tuning talange you haves to play it for a week and you have to buy
cars that is hrd and
tune um .



IP: 195.147.230.245
Posted on November 18, 2001 at 10:24:26 AM by Gideon

Well I reckon to put some ammunition back into the "tank" we need a game
that takes all the best
elements of past 3DO titles and mixes them up into one tasty swiss cheese
bun. Take the top plot
FMV sequences from Shockwave and Pheonix 3 and blend them with the unique
gameing style of
Gridders, add in a dash of the tight plot dynamics of Total Eclipse. A pinch
of the easy to to
get into gameplay of Gex should finish it off nicely. So what have you got
once you've blended
all these fine games together?
A disgusting mess, to be honest. So just make a sequel to Burning Soldier -
IT ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



IP: 62.188.213.96
Posted on November 18, 2001 at 10:29:24 AM by Jonathon Redsell

hmmm... nice idea, nice package, yes a small package but it packs a big
punch. Can you ellaborate
further on the idea, I mean you can cast many stones Gideon but if the world
is dry then so is
your wish! I really like the idea of Phoenix 3 2 games in one, maybe we
could try more than 2
games in one!



Re(3): Possible new game development
IP: 195.147.152.126
Posted on November 18, 2001 at 10:38:58 AM by Gideon

You like my idea? Well it's probably the best I've got. A Burning Soldier
type game with platform
sections, and get this - 3D Pinball sections like Pa'tank!!!! Oh Oh Oh
YES!!! That would really
ROCK!!!



Re(4): Possible new game development
IP: 62.188.213.96
Posted on November 18, 2001 at 10:46:00 AM by Jonathon Redsell

Maybe we could use the realistic laser gun blasts from space pirates, and of
course we need an
awesome new alien race we have had, Draaksai, Gral, Kaisertians, and
ofcourse the aliens from
shockwave, what sort of name could we come up with. What country are you in?
maybe we should talk
about your ideas on the phone! I need a new story board editor and writer, I
am based in
Liverpool England. Wow I am really excited now, we can really finally
exploit the 3DO's massive
and monstrous potenential. Jon.


Re(5): Possible new game development
IP: 195.147.151.60
Posted on November 18, 2001 at 10:50:52 AM by Gideon

NO! NO! We can't use the laser blasts from Space Pirates, I find them too
realistic! I think the
Aliens should be called Rianissafreekk. I'll have to get back to you later
as I'm just about to
leave work.
Ciao Giddy.



Re(6): Possible new game development
IP: 62.188.213.96
Posted on November 18, 2001 at 10:55:40 AM by Jonathon Redsell

You think I am joking, be serious now I am going to develop a new range of
3DO games just because
thats my passion in life. The guy who made this site deserves a medal for
keeping the beautiul
but feint candle known as the 3DO alive!!!!! Please help me fellow 3DO
freaks I can make some
great new games with your support and ideas!!



Re(7): Possible new game development
IP: 195.92.67.65
Posted on November 18, 2001 at 11:40:27 AM by Zodak

As much as I'd like to believe you, I know in my heart that 3DO development
is finished. We are
too small a user base to attract names such as Crystal Dynamics and DOmark.
I will just play the
classics to keep the 3DO spirit alive.



(8): Possible new game development
IP: 195.92.67.66
Posted on November 18, 2001 at 11:52:58 AM by Gideon

Hey man, don't give up! 3DO IS going to come back one way or another! Think
right, what happens
if XBox flops? Microsoft are going to look pretty stupid but if they
re-released it with added
3DO compatibility they would have two bonus's - 1) The HUGE number of
quality 3DO titles
(too numerous to list here) and 2) The highly respected name of 3DO itself!
Everyone remembers
3DO fondly and many would jump at the chance of reviving it!
Just keep the faith alive and let's make every shot count!



Re(8): Possible new game development
IP: 62.188.214.99
Posted on November 18, 2001 at 11:51:57 AM by Chancey

I dont think that you should discourage Liquid Neumonia, anything new to add
to my 3do collection
would be a blessing. I just thank the lord tha we have 3do and that we have
such a large quantity
of quality titles. I think maybe LN should produce a stand alone title a bit
like mortal kombat
mythologies - sub zero on the snes - maybe way of the warrior heroes -
crimson glory. It could be
a quality platform game, with sink sand levels, icey slippy levels and all
of the other great
things that make a great platformer but this one stars the best way of the
warrior character
Crimson Glory - what do you think jonny?



IP: 195.92.67.66
Posted on November 18, 2001 at 12:00:05 AM by Gideon

ROCK ON BABY!!! That is just the coolest idea, as cool as ICE in fact.
But hey howzabout War of the Warrior Vs. Primal Rage? That I would love to
see! In fact if Santa
pulled that one out of his bulging sack and thrust it into my stocking this
xmas I'd be well
chuffed!!! Primal Rage RULES!!!



Re(9): Possible new game development
IP: 195.92.67.66
Posted on November 18, 2001 at 11:56:48 AM by Zodak

I'm not trying to discourage Liquid Neumonia, I'm just sssaying that they're
hardly of the same
calibre az American Lassser Gamesss. And anyway I wait to sssee resultsss.



Re(9): Possible new game development
IP: 62.188.214.99
Posted on November 18, 2001 at 11:52:59 AM by Jonathon Redsell

Personally I prefered major Gaines - but I like the idea and I will consider
it.


Re(10): Possible new game development
IP: 195.92.67.66
Posted on November 18, 2001 at 12:02:27 AM by Gideon

Will you consider my Way of the Warrior Vs. Primal Rage idea too?


Re(11): Possible new game development
IP: 62.188.214.99
Posted on November 18, 2001 at 12:08:27 AM by Jonathon Redsell

Yes I will but I think that maybe we ae forgetting the best beat em'up on
the 3DO Rise of the
Robots. Maybe we could do Rise of the vs. total eclipse in a space fighter
super brawl
spectacular, or maybe we could do something like Capcom Vs. Snk with Crystal
Dynamics VS.
American laser games.


Re(12): Possible new game development
IP: 195.92.67.66
Posted on November 18, 2001 at 12:16:59 AM by Gideon

Hey I'd forgotten about Rise of the Robots!! Howzabout a game where you have
the robots from
RotR flying the spaceships outa Shockwave 2, the player has to battle them
in a dinasaur shaped
exo-skeleton suit! Now that a great game would make!!!


Re(12): Possible new game development
IP: 195.92.67.66
Posted on November 18, 2001 at 12:12:41 AM by Zodak

I think you are losing sight of the fact that the companies who made the
original games may not
wish to license them that cheaply, if at all. I mean if you were Rage
software would you wish to
allow somebody else to use and cash in on the household name of Rise of the
Robots? No, I think
this is all pipe dreams - I will play the classics and keep the name 3DO
close to my heart.


IP: 62.188.214.99
Posted on November 18, 2001 at 12:16:42 AM by Jonathon Redsell

Thats true - Rise of the Robots is a quality title, if i were I mine I
wouldnt want to part with
it.


Re(14): Possible new game development
IP: 195.92.67.66
Posted on November 18, 2001 at 12:19:19 AM by Zodak

Yes and besides surely the Atari Jaguar is more likely to attract the star
names than our beloved
3DO? After all it is 64bit.


Re(15): Possible new game development
IP: 62.188.214.99
Posted on November 18, 2001 at 12:22:35 AM by Derek Freeman

Yes I believe it had 64 bits in it.
Wow that was a great machine - I love Kasumi Ninja!!! Its the only game that
eally even compares
to Way of the warrior.


Re(16): Possible new game development
IP: 195.92.67.66
Posted on November 18, 2001 at 12:25:20 AM by Gideon

Hey! No guys! No talk allowed about Jaguar! It sucks and it blows man!
Nothing comes close to Way of the Warrior it's got Crimson Glory for christs
sake!! She sucks in
all the right ways!!!


Re(17): Possible new game development
IP: 62.188.214.99
Posted on November 18, 2001 at 12:28:11 AM by Derek

Yes but 'occhhh ayyyee' need I say anymore, I think Kasumi Ninja has better
plot development.


Re(18): Possible new game development
IP: 195.92.67.66
Posted on November 18, 2001 at 12:30:50 AM by Gideon

Hey who needs plot development when you can have a good jack over a game!!
Crimson Glory really does it for me she ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Re(19): Possible new game development
IP: 62.188.214.99
Posted on November 18, 2001 at 12:34:55 AM by Jonathon Redsell

I think were really losing sight of the conversation here, and I think you
need to lose sight of
crimson glory, but if you carry on with the Juk'F'lor then I should think
you will go blind
anyway.


Re(20): Possible new game development
IP: 24.4.254.144
Posted on November 18, 2001 at 07:20:48 PM by Azathoth

I kind of think that a few more games like killing time would be great or
maybe a new trip'd
let's see how about a few roll players,come on everybody the possibilities
are endless..........


Re(21): Possible new game development
IP: 195.92.67.69
Posted on November 19, 2001 at 04:26:08 AM by Chancey

Does anyone know what happened to American laser games? I mean they made
such great games, and
no-one else has managed to carry out an FMV 'shooter' with the style and
classy acting that they
had with games like, space pirates for example. It would be sad to see that
they had gone
bankrupt or maybe committed suicide or something like that. I would love to
get hold of some
guns, so I felt like I was really there battling for good against evil, I
mean Captain Talon is
ruthless and we cant let him get aw...... .....sorry got a bit carried away
there, forgive me but
space pirates is my life man and without a gun I just dont feel like a man,
I feel like half a
man - a ma if you like.

Chancey.


Re(21): Possible new game development
IP: 195.92.67.69
Posted on November 19, 2001 at 04:19:52 AM by Derek

Yeah come on everyone, just think we could remake immercennary but with one
big difference, we
could make it good, and not depressingly horrific as the original games is.
Hey and err... ..Get
off my back old maaayann.


Re(21): Possible new game development
IP: 62.188.72.59
Posted on November 18, 2001 at 07:26:11 PM by Jonathon Redsell

hmmm... ....a roll playing game, what a great idea, I think maybe a final
fantasy style game but
with the charcters from shockwave!!!!!


Re(22): Possible new game development
IP: 195.92.198.73
Posted on November 19, 2001 at 11:57:43 AM by Gideon

YeSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do it man, DO IT!!
I don't even know what Final Fantasy is (I only play 3DO, Mega CD, GX4000 &
Atari Jaguar) But it
sounds COOL with a capital O and with the guys (and gals) from shockwave
it'll be KILLER!!


Re(22): Possible new game development
IP: 195.92.198.73
Posted on November 19, 2001 at 11:53:10 AM by Zodak

How could you even consider dishonouring the memory of Shockwave,
Shockwave - Operation Jumpgate
and Shockwave 2 - Beyond a Joke (or whatever it was called) by re-hashing
the classic characters
into a disgusting modern game style? You make me cry tears of despair when
you sugest such
dis-respectful things. Let Shockwave live on only in our hearts - people of
today would not be
able to handle it's subtle genius.


Re(23): Possible new game development
IP: 195.92.67.65
Posted on November 20, 2001 at 04:49:36 AM by Chancey

It's not a dishonour it is an honour!!!!
If we want the 3do to live we need to all our favourites that are in our
hearts to move on even
though that may be hard for us. I know this especially is true for you Zodak
as your Juk-f'lor
style has had to adapt over the years so you can stay the undisputed master.


Re(24): Possible new game development
IP: 195.92.67.69
Posted on November 20, 2001 at 05:38:57 AM by Gideon (Giddy Widdy)

Yeah Man!! You tell that old misery guts Kodak - or whatever his stupid name
is - where to get
off!!
The new dawn of 3DO is almost here and it's going to ROCK while KICKING
plenty of Gay Station
ASS!!!
Oh yes momma!


IP: 195.92.67.69
Posted on November 20, 2001 at 05:36:20 AM by Zodak

That's enough of your lip Chancey. My heart is strong with the spirit, the
very essence of 3DO.
You however live in a dream world of exciting new developments which will
never come to passs.
And my style has not changed at all - it is merely multifaceted. I have
shown different elements
at different times over the many years since 3DO was first shining brightly
over the
computer/video games scene like a gigantic beacon of hope and serenity.


Re(25): Possible new game development
IP: 195.92.67.65
Posted on November 20, 2001 at 06:48:19 AM by Jonathon Redsell

I think we should all kiss and make up guys, you know we are all in this
together and we need to
be united to make the 3DO a devastating force once again. This silly
bickering just wont do.
Maybe we could think of some original ideas for these games, rehashing old
ideas may not be the
answer


Re(26): Possible new game development
IP: 195.92.67.65
Posted on November 20, 2001 at 06:55:42 AM by Chancey

Dream on Jon, zodak is to obsessed with his scores on total eclipse to be
worried about silly
little things like carrying on the 3do's glory.
Maybe we could have a game called Zodak - adventures of a git. it could be
about Zodak and his
main hobby. ;)


Re(27): Possible new game development
IP: 195.92.67.65
Posted on November 20, 2001 at 07:31:55 AM by Zodak

I am quite prepared to make up with Chancey and even that hopeless romantic
Gideon. I have many
original ideas for games including Crisp Packet Emulator and Super Tony's
Solid Nova Racing.
I also thought a suite of programs for creating Garage music using the 3DO's
incredible sound
capabilities.
But these are merely my dreams - they are real only in my 3DO shaped heart.


Re(28): Possible new game development
IP: 195.92.67.65
Posted on November 20, 2001 at 07:37:10 AM by Giddy (Gideon)

Hey dudes from now on I wish to be known as Giddy. That aside, I just want
to say what a florist
Zodak is!!! Calling me a "hopeless romantic" when it's he who has a "3DO
shaped Heart" what a
crock!!! Until Zodak gets onboard the 3DO Heavy duty Storm Troopin' bus I
ain't got nuttin' to
say to that lousy squid head!!!
KEEP 3DO SOLID!!!


Re(29): Possible new game development
IP: 62.188.209.176
Posted on November 20, 2001 at 02:03:12 PM by Jonathon Redsell

Just wanted to know why you wanted to be known as giddy now?
But listen dont forget 3DO ROCKS and from now on I want to be known as 'ol
yella teeth'. Thats
what people inside my company LIQUID NEUMONIA call me. Anyway I am working
on a spectacular title
right now and I will let you know more when the idea is complete.
May the 3DO live forever!!

Guys I've been considering going for this new look - what do you think?

Oh well post up some other ones then Gid or should I say Tetsujin....

BTW 'Get off my back old man'

Derek Freeman.

--- In celluloidsuicide@yahoogroups.com, "Rudi" <ruud@b...> wrote:
> Hi,
> Hmmm... The original thread is currently missing.  I will attempt to
locate
> it...
>
> Cheers,
> 3UAR.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Shit film lover
> To: celluloidsuicide@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:12 PM
> Subject: RE: [celluloidsuicide] Re: Mullets
>
>
> That's a great one, do you have the original thread where John Redsell
> announces he has started a new 3DO games company?

Oh well post up some other ones then Gid or should I say Tetsujin....

BTW 'Get off my back old man'

Derek Freeman.

--- In celluloidsuicide@yahoogroups.com, "Rudi" <ruud@b...> wrote:
> Hi,
> Hmmm... The original thread is currently missing.  I will attempt to
locate
> it...
>
> Cheers,
> 3UAR.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Shit film lover
> To: celluloidsuicide@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:12 PM
> Subject: RE: [celluloidsuicide] Re: Mullets
>
>
> That's a great one, do you have the original thread where John Redsell
> announces he has started a new 3DO games company?

Hi,
Hmmm... The original thread is currently missing.  I will attempt to locate
it...

Cheers,
3UAR.


----- Original Message -----
From: Shit film lover
To: celluloidsuicide@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:12 PM
Subject: RE: [celluloidsuicide] Re: Mullets


That's a great one, do you have the original thread where John Redsell
announces he has started a new 3DO games company?

To all new members, please check and take part in our polls on the
yahoo group website. It can be found here;
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/celluloidsuicide/polls

Ant.

That’s a great one, do you have the original thread where John Redsell
announces he has started a new 3DO games company?

Ant.

-----Original Message-----
From: celluloidsuicide@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:celluloidsuicide@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rudi
Sent: 26 April 2005 23:10
To: celluloidsuicide@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [celluloidsuicide] Re: Mullets


Hi,
How about this classic 3DO4Life thread?  Don't worry there's plenty more
fuel in the Tank as Ryan would say...

Cheers,
Dave Zodak.



Spectro-infatugo
IP: 195.92.67.70
Posted on December 10, 2001 at 08:21:46 AM by Jonathon Redsell

Well hi there boys and girls.
A few things firstly - whats happened?
why is everyone talking about what they like to be called and who is the
most bonkers and doo-lally. Lets get back to the R.E.A.L. issue 3do.
Since
you havent been giving me any ideas I have, with my design team here at
Liquid Neumonia come up with a working idea for 3do. The working title
is
'spectro-infatugo' prenounced 'speck-trow-in-faar-tew-go'. The name says
alot about the game. It is about a science researcher called 'troy
freeman'
he is researching the supernatural world or the 'spectro world' as it is
known in the game. He develops a way of crossing into the spectro world,
which is called 'infatugo illumination'. whilst experimenting with this
technique troy has an accident (or atleast thats what he thinks) happens
and
he is lost permenantly in the spectro world. Ofcourse there was no
accident
it was the leader of the spectro world 'dark lord Baz' drawing him in
for
his own twisted purposes. The game is a little like Phoenix 3 as there
are 2
games within the game, the first is a platform style adventure and the
second is a first person shooting section where you get to battle it out
with the dark boss of each level. We have finished designing the first
level
and we are gonna make a test version to see if the idea is feasable.
Then
ofcourse we will hire some actors (of high qulity ofcourse) to come and
make
the FMV cut sequences. If you have any ideas to move on my project let
me
know, but 3do lovers everywhere can start to get prepared for the
ressurection of the awesome machine.
Long Live 3DO, long live Liquid Neumonia and long live Figures!

Re(1): Spectro-infatugo
IP: 172.163.143.126
Posted on January 5, 2002 at 01:38:29 AM by Parker

If you are truly serious and dedicated to making this game, you will
most
likely need a 3DO developer's kit, and possibly a 3DO debugging kit
(basically a 3DO unit that doesn't require encrypted games). Then you
will
have to plead with The 3DO Company to release their encryption. Perhaps
get
in contact with Good Deal Games because they claim to have some
unpublished
games available to them. You are going to need some 3D graphical art
experience (beware of the 4 point polygon!) and of course programming
experience.

Anyways, good luck.
-Parker

Re(2): Spectro-infatugo
IP: 152.163.213.77
Posted on January 5, 2002 at 01:42:40 PM by Ryan

There's a 3DO developer's unit on eBay now here's the link. Hope this
helps.

http://cgi.ebay.aol.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1317084819

Re(1): Spectro-infatugo
IP: 195.92.67.66
Posted on December 11, 2001 at 02:51:17 PM by Lonestar

Great news! Sounds like Liquid Neumonia have been hard at it. How much
is
this game likely to cost when it comes out?

Re(1): Spectro-infatugo
IP: 4.19.110.79
Posted on December 11, 2001 at 00:06:07 AM by Gunstar

Jam on!!! Some excellent news!!!

Re(2): Spectro-infatugo
IP: 62.188.209.217
Posted on December 11, 2001 at 02:57:20 PM by Jonathon Redsell

we want people to be able to afford the game but it cant be cheap due to
the
high development costs and actors fees I am thinking around £37 or $40

Re(3): Spectro-infatugo
IP: 195.92.198.71
Posted on December 12, 2001 at 04:59:02 PM by Battlestar

That sounds a pretty raw deal for us guys in the UK! $40 is a lot less
than
£37! How can these prices be?
By the by, the game sounds killer.

Re(4): Spectro-infatugo
IP: 62.188.213.185
Posted on December 12, 2001 at 05:03:41 PM by Jonathon Redsell

yes but thats taking into account the falling exchange rate, there
really
isnt that much difference, but we are going to produce more of the US
copies
that has different packaging, which is cheaper to produce. Its not an
unfair
deal I can assure you.

Re(5): Spectro-infatugo
IP: 195.92.198.71
Posted on December 12, 2001 at 05:21:06 PM by Battlestar

Oh that's great news! I thought we were getting screwed on the price but
when you put it like that, I couldn't be happier. Cheers Jonny!!

Re(2): Spectro-infatugo
IP: 195.92.67.66
Posted on December 11, 2001 at 01:08:02 PM by Jonathon Redsell

I have just finished a bit of artwork for the game and yes it is very
very
rough but if anyone wants to see it drop me an email and I will gladly
message it to you. its really a teaser trailer of sorts. Cheers,
Jonny.

Re(3): Spectro-infatugo
IP: 195.92.168.164
Posted on December 11, 2001 at 01:12:09 PM by 3d man

What game are you designing at the moment then Jonny .

Re(4): Spectro-infatugo
IP: 62.188.209.50
Posted on December 11, 2001 at 02:32:49 PM by Jonathon Redsell

fpr spectro-infatugo ofcourse, if you want to know more about it then
check
the top posting from me that has all of the games details.

Re(5): Spectro-infatugo
IP: 195.92.198.73
Posted on December 11, 2001 at 02:58:32 PM by Dave Zodak

Hello my friends. I have returned to you, my 3DO loving family.
PlayStation
just didn't fill my heart like 3DO did, and now I hear there is to be a
new
game! Please send me any details via email to: zodak@...
Thank you.

Re(6): Spectro-infatugo
IP: 62.188.213.185
Posted on December 12, 2001 at 04:51:06 PM by GiDd-e up

Well this 'hood aint big enough for the two off us Zodak. If you show
your
head again Im gonna pop a cap in your ass.
I realised as the OG that the Jaguar and 3DO BLOW!!!!!!!!!!! Its the
Phillips CDi that ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!1
I just stole one off someone who looked at me in the wrong way when I
was
walking through he 'hood. I blew 'em away with my spud gun and then took
the
CDi they were carrying and their underpants. Then I got into my Robin
Reliant Lowrider and took off to my crib in Everton, south central LA.
I am off now to found a CDi messageboard so see ya!

Re(7): Spectro-infatugo
IP: 195.92.67.70
Posted on December 12, 2001 at 05:27:13 PM by Dave Zodak

If it would make you happy, then please by all means put a cap in my
ass. I
just want peace and solidarity within this 3DO community.
Discourse is easy but must be avoided, though it is hard.

Re(8): Spectro-infatugo
IP: 62.188.213.185
Posted on December 12, 2001 at 05:33:23 PM by G.J.

>:(

you BUNCH OF PUNKS!

SILENCE OR YOU WILL PAY!!!!!!

why dont you jus GET OUTTA MY FACE!!

Re(9): Spectro-infatugo
IP: 195.92.198.73
Posted on December 15, 2001 at 03:16:04 PM by Dave Zodak

Of course I will get out of your face if it will make you feel more at
peace. I seek only to soothe and calm the world. Peace.

Re(10): Spectro-infatugo
IP: 4.19.110.96
Posted on January 2, 2002 at 11:51:56 AM by Gunstar

Guys, I know your just joking around, but it's taking over the board
with
messages that have little to do with actual 3DO substance. Please refer
to
this board for future flame wars (even if it's in good humor):

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