... train ... being ... did ... content / ... be ... told ... Coincidentally, I was watching a few minutes of THE CONVERSATION again a couple of days ago,...
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Michael E. Kerpan, Jr.
michaelkerpan
Mar 2, 2006 12:59 pm
... If these are rentable -- they must now be buyable, right? ;~} Any hints? MEK...
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Zach Campbell
rashomon82
Mar 2, 2006 1:29 pm
... Yes ... --Zach...
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David Ehrenstein
cellar47
Mar 2, 2006 2:00 pm
... And that's why I brought up the notion of "recit." Slippery slope. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo!...
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David Ehrenstein
cellar47
Mar 2, 2006 2:01 pm
... Oh yeah? Are you familiar with Poe's "The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym" ? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of...
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David Ehrenstein
cellar47
Mar 2, 2006 2:03 pm
... There's a similar scene in "The Talented Mr. Ripley," where Ripley on his morto-scooter rides down a small street wiht shops where windows and mirrors cast...
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Rick
viajenuevo
Mar 2, 2006 2:44 pm
I am currently in Florida attending the Miami International Film Festival, which opens tomorrow. Maybe I might see some of you there. The following week I...
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Fred Camper
fredcamper
Mar 2, 2006 4:03 pm
... So, who in our group has taken a position about film similar to this??? The issue for me is not that narrative should have "second-class status," but...
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Richard Modiano
tharpa2002
Mar 2, 2006 4:45 pm
... "...There's a way of seeing here that gives the story meaning, but to hang it all on the story seems to me to limit it. A great film is, in my empirical...
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David Ehrenstein
cellar47
Mar 2, 2006 5:00 pm
... Fred, have you seen Ozon's "8 Women"? That deer turns up in its first shot! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of...
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Dan Sallitt
sallitt1
Mar 2, 2006 6:01 pm
... I think Sarris would probably be happy to acknowledge all kinds of exceptions and border conditions, as is his wont. Nonetheless, if one cannot rely on...
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Matt Teichman
bufordrat
Mar 2, 2006 6:01 pm
... That sounds like mindless fad following trying to masquerade as medium essentialism. Medium purism in avant-garde cinema, at least as instantiated in the ...
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David Ehrenstein
cellar47
Mar 2, 2006 6:27 pm
... "My passion for discover has led me near and far From Mecca to Medina, Brazil and Zanzibar I speak forty langiages I’ve written fifty books My friends...
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Rick
viajenuevo
Mar 2, 2006 6:47 pm
... And this is Sarris from two weeks ago, referring to screenwriter- novelist Richard Price: "looking back on all that he's written for the screen, who the...
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Matt Armstrong
matt_c_armst...
Mar 2, 2006 6:52 pm
... Harry out from a crowd. Or the shot of him inside his ... and ... camera's ... Not just a hidden camera, but a security camera. Note the way that it...
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thebradstevens
Mar 2, 2006 8:04 pm
... It doesn't really move like a security camera. It remains absolutely static until Harry moves to the other side of the room, at which point it pans to...
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David Ehrenstein
cellar47
Mar 2, 2006 8:25 pm
... a fortiori "Cache" -- which deals with surveillance and paranoia on a level FAR beyond that of "The Conversation." Coppola's film is a nice little ...
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Matt Armstrong
matt_c_armst...
Mar 2, 2006 8:55 pm
... absolutely ... The shot stays on the empty part of the room Harry has been in for a few beats and then slowly pans to him on the couch. It's hardly...
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Noel Vera
noelbotevera
Mar 2, 2006 9:44 pm
... You can find them here: http://shop.regalfilms.com/ Doesn't say they're subtitled, but I'd imagine they are (nice thing about Netflix, they note details...
35804
thebradstevens
Mar 2, 2006 10:34 pm
... But ... if ... There is a difference between these two approaches to filmmaking, and describing that particular shot in THE CONVERSATION as a writer's shot...
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thebradstevens
Mar 2, 2006 10:48 pm
Robert Altman was just interviewed on UK television (as part of BBC2's excellent The Culture Show). His comments about the screenwriter's role are so...
35806
John M.
jmatturr
Mar 2, 2006 11:01 pm
... Fred Camper As I made clear in my original post on this topic I wasn't implying that anyone -- of course most of all you as the usual stalking horse for...
35807
David Ehrenstein
cellar47
Mar 2, 2006 11:35 pm
Well you'd see alot of bad Altman pictures. But maybe he's thinking he improved on what Lionel Chetwynd originally wrote for the film that became "Quintet" ...
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Matt Armstrong
matt_c_armst...
Mar 2, 2006 11:36 pm
... and ... Coppola ... his ... exists ... I'm not necessarily disagreeing with the distinction you're making, but I'd like to know how you deduce this from a...
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thebradstevens
Mar 2, 2006 11:53 pm
... making, ... you ... The ideas expressed in Coppola's shot may not have been expressed in the screenplay, but they certainly could have been. Whereas the...
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samfilms2003
Mar 3, 2006 12:56 am
... I'd almost bet money The Godfather was not far from Hou's mind (nor Li Ping-bin's) when he shot Flowers Of Shanhai (if not The Puppetmaster too) -Sam W...
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Fred Camper
fredcamper
Mar 3, 2006 1:06 am
Dan, Thanks for describing your perspective. We simply see things differently. But please remember that as my writing shows I do not ignore the narrative of...
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Fred Camper
fredcamper
Mar 3, 2006 1:12 am
David, I haven't seen "8 Women"; thanks for the tip. I rather liked the only Ozon that I have seen, and actually thought it vaguely Sirkian in a way that I can...
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John M.
jmatturr
Mar 3, 2006 1:36 am
Actually that's what I said, or meant to say. It's true especially if you go beyond the theorizing and look at Greenberg's actual criticism which is more...
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Michael Worrall
antartaud3
Mar 3, 2006 1:42 am
... Li Ping-bin's) ... Now Brad and Sam, don't laugh, but I found "Goodbye South, Goodbye" in some wayto be an answer to, or response to, Scorsese's gangster...
