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Re: [a_film_by] Re: Oliveira

Thanks to Felipe and Bill for responses on de Oliveira. In writing that
he has "less of a signature style than most auteurs," I didn't mean to
suggest that I thought his oeuvre was inconsistent or that his films
couldn't be identified as de Oliveira films, just that he does shift
stylistically. Since making that post, I've been wondering if there is a
stylistic-thematic unity to his work, and it strikes me that in most of
it (and I've not seen many of the recent ones), there's a theme of
illusion, that is, that the depicted world is depicted as an artificial
construction, the image itself is present as an artifice and that
artifice is connected to the protagonists' dreams, fantasies, or failed
aspirations. There's a meta-dimension here; without being as obvious
about it as some modernist artists, de Oliveira makes image-making, in
the broadest sense of the term, his true subject, or one of them.

Mostly off-topic travel note: I post this from Xian, China, one of the
most amazing cities I've seen, with spectacular ancient (if recently
restored) city walls, a museum the Shaanxi History Museum) with a
history of Chinese art full of sublime works, the spectacularly austere
"Little Goose Pagoda," and the nearby tomb of the first Qin emperor, the
subject of Chin Kiage's great "The Emperor and the Assassin." The whole
tomb structure supposedly required decades of work by 700,000 to 800,000
laborers, who one gathers were not necessarily afforded decent working
conditions or full workplace benefits. This is the tomb with the
thousands of buried terracotta warriors, a couple of km from the burial
mound itself, and which are still only partially unearthed. The soldiers
aren't necessarily the greatest of Chinese sculptures (there are many
greater ones in the museum), though they're very good, but it's the
overall concept of burying so many, aligned in numerous rows, that's
kind of astounding. Viewing this enormous array, I thought, "I should
have liked to have been an emperor in China then, when men had the
power, and the freedom..."

- Fred C.






Sat Apr 24, 2004 11:00 pm

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Unfair it is then. Or maybe we have very different tastes towards Oliveira, even if we tend to agree on Bunuel greats (Nazarin, Illusion viaja en tranvia, etc....
Ruy Gardnier
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Apr 23, 2004
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I haven't seen all the late Oliveiras. I tend to agree with Ruy's posts, and with Peter's about "I'm Going Home." One interesting question for auteurism is...
Fred Camper
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Apr 23, 2004
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... Oliveira, ... en ... his ... Cela ... Please do! But I'm supposed to turn in the Bunuel MS. pretty soon. ... and yes, ... shoes in the ... They're all I...
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Apr 23, 2004
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... According to the long interview with Biette in "La Lettre du Cinéma", all of the directors with whom Paulo Branco works are subject to his preferences,...
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Apr 23, 2004
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I didn't see Biette's Bluebeard, but it was published in 2 parts in Trafic. I didn't know that he had done a theatre production. I wonder if any of the De...
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Apr 23, 2004
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... Pretty much his prerogative, if he's fronting up with the money. Nor is he the only producer-of-auteurs to do so: Marim Kamitz (MK2), in spite of producing...
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Apr 24, 2004
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... I don't understand. To whom? -Jaime...
Jaime N. Christley
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Apr 24, 2004
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... Not to a Hollywood audience, certainly. In fact, after being blessed with Filmex and the Ken Wlaschin edition of AFI Fest, which always showed De O's...
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Apr 25, 2004
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... Speaking of "oversold," I notice that two of the three screenings of A Talking Picture at Tribeca Film Festival next week (I guess NYFF passed on this...
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Apr 26, 2004
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... here), by contrast, is an hour of cinema so stunningly sublime that it made me want to work backwards from there.... I would not hesitate to put A Talking...
Robert Keser
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Apr 26, 2004
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... Daney wrote on NO, OR THE VAIN GLORY OF COMMAND. I have the article somewhere... And it's not Naremore who's writing on de Oliveira (he's editing the...
Gabe Klinger
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Apr 28, 2004
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Well, let me disagree here with both Fred and Bill. I think Oliveira’s career is remarkable consistent and I do think it’s very easy to identify his films...
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Apr 23, 2004
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Thanks to Felipe and Bill for responses on de Oliveira. In writing that he has "less of a signature style than most auteurs," I didn't mean to suggest that I...
Fred Camper
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Apr 24, 2004
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Hi Fred, Save and happy travels to you. I saw BLIND SHAFT today, the film about the murderous miners. I've you seen it or heard anything about it; reviews say...
Elizabeth Anne Nolan
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Apr 25, 2004
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Blind Shaft was shown here recently at the Detroit Institute of the Arts. It is a terrifying portrait of the lower depths of commerce in mainland China. It is...
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Apr 25, 2004
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... My comment was meant as a wry joke. Of course they had horrible working conditions; supposedly the workers were forcibly conscripted laborers. The same is...
Fred Camper
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Apr 25, 2004
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Agreed...I was just trying to get in my comment about 'keeping men busy' being one of the motivators for many great projects, ala the HOOVER DAM and TVA in...
Elizabeth Anne Nolan
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Apr 25, 2004
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... I'm afraid I've never been able to appreciate any of his work. Seems to me he's interested in underlining the performative aspect of acting and ...
Dan Sallitt
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Apr 25, 2004
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I did the same thing, but isn't "La Maison cinema et le monde 2" only a document of the years 1981 - 1985? If so, his coverage of Oliveira doesn't seem...
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Apr 25, 2004
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... Aha!...
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