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Kevin Lee wrote:

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>Sounds a lot like Kiarostami (and yet not so much like the Shimizu
>film that I saw). Would you agree?
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Only to a small extent. I'm not I can put my finger on the difference
exactly, but the Kiarostami films I have seen (I'm not his biggest fan)
don't have the utter evenness of the two Shimizus. I don't say that in a
negative or positive sense, just descriptively. There are odd twists to
the narrative that create the smallest of tensions -- "Mr. Thank-You"
was without such tensions.

- Fred C.




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