Re: [a_film_by] Auteur Wars, con'td: Rosenbaum gives screenwriter auteur status
Kevin Lee wrote:
>>
>Fred, would you be interested in having a poll or survey conducted
>among our members, let's say 5-10 key questions that get at the heart
>of defining the auteur theory?
>
I'm not sure of the point of this. The "auteur theory" is of course not
a theory, but an approach, and that approach is going to differ from one
person to the next. Few of us, perhaps none of us, have a problem if
group member A wants to declare the scriptwriter B or actor C or
producer D is the "auteur" of a particular film, even if we don't agree
about that particular film and auteur. Since the auteur theory is not a
theory it has no theoretical principles that such statements would
violate. And also most of us or all of us, even me, would agree that for
commercial features even if the director is the "auteur" there are going
to be elements of the film contributed by others, and so the
distribution of credit for the whole is not a black and white issue.
If some members of our group want to organize a "defining auteurism"
project that will produce a document we can put on our site, great,
start emailing each other about it and come up with a reasonable
methodology and you're off.
Hey, everyone, if an article is free on the Web, don't post big excerpts
of it here, just post the url! We may consider adding this to our
"rules"; there are good reasons to request this.
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