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This article,
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/24/movies/oscars/24FRIE.html ,
in yesterday's New York Times rather fascinated me, because from the
film I had concluded that Jesse Friedman was likely innocent, and that
this was another of the many cases of fake therapist-induced memories.
Now I think the opposite, that it's more likely that he's guilty. The
victim's mom who says, "What fame is there in making a film about a
pedophile who's a pedophile? " is right, of course, and there's always a
devil's incentive for journalists -- the film is a form of journalism,
I'd argue -- to create a story when there is none. I'm not saying that
Jesse is or isn't guilty, and unlike many I actually didn't like the
film very much, but now I like it a lot less. Lie detector tests are
not truly reliable, but they are at much better than 50-50, I believe,
and Jarecki left out the fact that Jesse flunked his. Jeracki seems
confused as to whether he was trying to make on "objective" documentary
or write a legal brief for Jesse, and that confusion, which shows in the
film, now seems much more questionable.

- Fred




Wed Feb 25, 2004 7:41 am

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This article, http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/24/movies/oscars/24FRIE.html , in yesterday's New York Times rather fascinated me, because from the film I had...
Fred Camper
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Feb 25, 2004
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I don't think the film came to any conclusion about Jesse Friedman -- or anything else for that matter. Clearly "something" happened. The father "did" collect ...
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Feb 25, 2004
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Feb 25, 2004
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