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Re: Gnostic Cinema (was: guilt (plus Science Fiction and Theory)   Message List  
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hotlove666 wrote:

>....think of all the representatives of the Archons, the rulers
>of the world created as a prison for us by the Demiurge, in....
>
Sorry for the calculated snippage, but that particular director gets
wayyyy too much press, in my view.

But to quote Gabe quoting a question posed to Bela Tarr by a
disconsolate viewer of "Werckmeister Harmonies," "Where is the hope?"
(Tarr's reply was something like, "The hope is that you see the
picture," a more profound artist's defense of art than it first appears).

Actually, I have no problem with bleak films, and some of the bleakest
are some of my favorites.
The real purpose of this post is to toot my horn once again for the
truly Gnostic cinema, some films of the American avant-garde that
counter the view that the created world is a prison with the other side
of Gnosticism, the search for the light, for the divine spark of
divinity within us that can be represented as light.

The most explicit great version the Gnostic scenario I know of is
Christopher Maclaine's vastly underrated, sublime film, "The Man Who
Invented Gold." But the theme suffuses Brakhage's work, in which in many
films objects are presented as traps for light and abstractions using
out of focus and other devices are light freed, and arguably can be
found in some of the films of Bruce Baillie, Larry Jordan (Brakhage's
classmate in high school), and, with a distinctly phallic twist, Kenneth
Anger. Cornell's "Angel" is susceptible to such a reading, as is some of
Harry Smith.

For a good film that realizes the belief of some Gnostics that any kind
of sex was fine as long as it did NOT lead to procreation, see Andy
Warhol's "Couch."

- Fred




Sun Feb 15, 2004 7:17 pm

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... Sorry for the calculated snippage, but that particular director gets wayyyy too much press, in my view. But to quote Gabe quoting a question posed to Bela...
Fred Camper
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Feb 15, 2004
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... And I'd reccomend the works of Curt McDowell, particularly "Loads." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast...
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Feb 15, 2004
8:32 pm

... "The real purpose of this post is to toot my horn once again for the truly Gnostic cinema, some films of the American avant-garde that counter the view...
Richard Modiano
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Feb 16, 2004
12:56 am

One of the puzzles of Kubrick for me is that there doesn't seem to be any equivalent to the end of 2001 in his other films, which depict only false gods, and...
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Feb 16, 2004
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... What makes you imagine the "God" at the end of "2001" is True? ... Not really. Crusie is (was) a major box office star. Kubrick was interested in making a...
David Ehrenstein
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Feb 16, 2004
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Richard asked: "Do you consider Landow's FILM THAT RISES TO THE SURFACE OF CLARIFIED BUTTER a Gnostic film?" Well, it's quite a great film, I know that. It's...
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