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WARNING: MGM has botched the Ingmar Bergman Collection!   Message List  
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Re: [a_film_by] WARNING: MGM has botched the Ingmar Bergman Collection!

Hmm. From the Web site it looks as if the images have been cropped from
1.33:1 to 1.62:1. But isn't that what theaters all over the world have
been doing since the 1960s? In the U.S. theaters typically show in
1.85:1, and in Europe, 1.66:1. Have the films in question ever been
shown in 1.33:1 in Europe, or the US? How often? Do we know what Bergman
intended? Just because the image on the 35mm film strip is 1.33:1
doesn't mean it was (a) shown that way or (b) intended to be shown that way.

I'm not saying the cropped images look right, I'm just questioning how
they have been shown in theaters or what was actually intended. Maybe
Bergman did intend 1.33:1, but then aside from the fact that the DVDs
are botched it would be interesting to know how often theaters and other
venues showed the film that way.

Bergman's longtime cinematographer, Sven Nykvist, is still living, no?
Why doesn't a member of this group take on a worthwhile research project
and try to contact him with some questions?

- Fred





Sun Feb 1, 2004 2:38 pm

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MGM has seriously cropped EVERY disc released in this collection! It is a travesty....my most-awaited collection turns into a complete hack job (literally)! ...
Raymond P.
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Feb 1, 2004
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Hmm. From the Web site it looks as if the images have been cropped from 1.33:1 to 1.62:1. But isn't that what theaters all over the world have been doing since...
Fred Camper
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Feb 1, 2004
2:36 pm

... from ... have ... Bergman ... that way. ... This raises a puzzling question: why would Bergman and his DP elect to shoot in 1.33:1 while knowing full well...
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Feb 1, 2004
4:35 pm

... It might be an even better idea for someone, maybe among the Swedish-speakers here, to contact Svensk Filmindustri directly to find an authority on the...
Craig Keller
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Feb 1, 2004
5:15 pm

In my experience art houses in the 1960s were pretty alert to what the ratio was supposed to be. That information could frequently be found officially...
Joseph Kaufman
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Feb 1, 2004
7:23 pm

I saw both "Shame" and "Hour of the Wolf" at a retrospective last year, and the films were DEFINITELY not 1.66:1. They were 1.37:1, just like Peerpee (Nick)...
Raymond P.
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Feb 2, 2004
2:14 am

A better and bigger idea: People with a little time on their hands should choose directors of the 50s, 60s, and 70s that they love, and contact the director...
Fred Camper
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Feb 1, 2004
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... For what it's worth, Criterion's website has Seventh Seal (1957) 1:33 Through a Glass Darkly (1961) 1:33 Winter Light (1962) 1:33 The Silence (1963) 1:33 ...
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Feb 1, 2004
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... Wild Strawberries: should be 1957 of course. Which leaves '63 to '72 up for grabs......
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