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Re: [a_film_by] Re: Brazilian films at MOMA

To put it shortly, I'd say that since DANCER IN THE DARK he has flattened his
provocative approach on manipulation to meet some kind of mainstream standards
of "shock politics". Before that, I liked his works, well, the ones I've seen:
certainly BREAKING THE WAVES and THE IDIOTS, his two best imho, and THE KINGDOM.
About THE BOSS OF IT ALL, I think he spoils what could be a frank approach on
non-control with this very witty script and mainly with his voiceover. Why would
someone play with a framing device if he's so sure of himself and able to print
his credentials in everything else he throws on the screen? In MOSCOW, the final
voiceover (there's one in the beginning and one final one, if I remember well)
self-effaces abruptly, giving us a strong sense of fragmentation and
incompleteness. I don't get that at all in the LvT film: all I get is the sense
of watching a very badly framed and edited episode of THE OFFICE.

ruy

----- Original Message -----
From: Bilge Ebiri
To: a_film_by@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:29 AM
Subject: Re: [a_film_by] Re: Brazilian films at MOMA



>About MOSCOW, it's an exercice on error much like Lars Von Trier's THE BOSS
>OF IT ALL,
>but way better on the approach on error and fragmented bits the structure
>comes with
>(the Trier is nothing more then a self-conscious joke, whereas here we are
>in deep waters).

Um, them's fighting words w/r/t THE BOSS OF IT ALL, which I consider to be
one of the more underrated films of the past few years. I'd be curious to
see why you think it's nothing more than a self-conscious joke (unless you
feel that way about all of LVT's films, in which case never mind).

-Bilge





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I wonder if I may trouble our Brazilian contingent once again to post any comments on MOMA's annual series of new Brazilian films: ...
Dan Sallitt
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Jun 20, 2009
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Way better than usual thanks for Eduardo Coutinho's retro. Coutinho is one of my favorite filmmakers current working, so it's great to hear his getting a retro...
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I would second Filipe´s comments, only adding that IMHO Coutinho´s Playing should also not be missed, and reinforce that every film not mentioned by Filipe...
Eduardo Valente
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It's raining Brazilian films in NYC. Does anyone have any thoughts on the films in this new series? I know that Bressane has a reputation, though I haven't...
Dan Sallitt
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Aug 3, 2009
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I would vehemently reccomend against any fiction except for the Bressane and ROMANCE (which I haven't seen, but some good people seem to like). But I don't...
Ruy Gardnier
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Aug 3, 2009
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... Um, them's fighting words w/r/t THE BOSS OF IT ALL, which I consider to be one of the more underrated films of the past few years. I'd be curious to see...
Bilge Ebiri
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I think the ideas you talk about were quite visible, Ruy: they are even announced at that roundtable discussion near the beginning, when Coutinho (I presume)...
Dan Sallitt
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Aug 3, 2009
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To put it shortly, I'd say that since DANCER IN THE DARK he has flattened his provocative approach on manipulation to meet some kind of mainstream standards of...
Ruy Gardnier
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Aug 3, 2009
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... I'm not entirely sure what you mean with that last sentence. THE BOSS OF IT ALL, as you seem to have also ascertained, is a film that's entirely about the...
Bilge Ebiri
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That's an interesting, almost odd reaction to the film, Dan. I don't think anyone in Brazil would come with the expression "audience friendliness" to describe...
Ruy Gardnier
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