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Re: Coeurs

--- In a_film_by@yahoogroups.com, "jess_l_amortell" <monterone1@...>
wrote:

> American, but otherwise I felt the film badly needed Delphine Seyrig.
> Naturally I always imagined I might be missing something, and the
> thing is that "Petites peurs partagees" (as I think I've also seen it
> called) has actually made me think about giving "Bouche" another
> chance.

I think that Bazin is a good way into PAS SUR LA BOUCHE. I was struck by
how Bazin's writings on Resnais's early art documentary shorts still
seemed to describe his sensibility in the 00s.

Even more apropos might be Bazin's writings on LES PARENTS TERRIBLES in
his "Theater and Cinema" pieces - I'm not sure whether I see what he's
talking about in PARENTS (which I haven't watched in forever), but I think
the observations apply to Resnais' theater adaptations. The approximate
idea would be that Resnais makes only the camera and editing decisions
that pertain to the experience of watching and analyzing a play, and
eschews techniques that would convert the play into the kind of experience
you could have only in cinema. I personally like PAS SUR LA BOUCHE quite
a bit without having special affection for the material. (If I like
COEURS a bit less, it's because the material seems to me more bothersome
and less neutral than the operetta in BOUCHE.)

The older I get, the more time I spend rereading Bazin, and the more
worthwhile that pastime seems.... - Dan



Mon May 28, 2007 2:36 pm

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I'm surprised that there are no comments on Resnais' "Coeurs" (aka "Private Fears in Public Places"), but that is probably due to its late start in the US. I...
C.P. Czarnecki
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Apr 11, 2007
10:04 am

"Coeurs" was released in France in late November of last year after being shown in major Film Festivals (Toronto, Venice...) but hasn't had a US release yet --...
jpcoursodon
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Apr 11, 2007
11:45 pm

I'm surprised it's being released theatrically at all, what with a masterpiece like "Pas Sur La Bouche" being unceremoniously shuffled off to home video. His ...
David Ehrenstein
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Apr 12, 2007
12:09 am

David I was not aware that "Pas sur la bouche" had not been released theatrically in the US. You mean, not even in New York?! At least it was released in video...
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Apr 12, 2007
12:42 am

... But who would be moved to buy the DVD if they don't know what it is? It had just a handful of festival screenings. I saw it at the annual "City of Lights/ ...
David Ehrenstein
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Apr 12, 2007
12:54 am

... I'm hoping the moderators will dispute this! I've never been aware of any such policy and feel it would be most unfortunate. Anyway, the Resnais is...
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Apr 12, 2007
3:45 am

... Angelenos had a shot at COEURS at one of the AFM screenings open to the public early last November, albeit at 8 or 9 A.M. -- - Joe Kaufman...
Joseph Kaufman
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Apr 12, 2007
5:08 am

... The moderators don't need to dispute it -- "I feel" we should just ignore it and do the opposite. We should be able to discuss any films here, including...
Fred Camper
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Apr 12, 2007
5:07 pm

... I've seen this film. In fact, I was an assistant director on it. I don't think it's as bad as people say it was, but it's impossible for me to be objective...
Bilge Ebiri
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Apr 13, 2007
5:47 am

... Pretty interesting. You know Russian then? Were the Siberia sections actually shot in Siberia? Notice I wasn't saying it was awful, just not so good. I...
Fred Camper
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Apr 13, 2007
2:17 pm

... Yes, they were. We re-did some interior shots when we were at the studio in Prague, but the Siberia sections are about 95% shot in Siberia. As for my ...
Bilge Ebiri
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Apr 13, 2007
2:34 pm

Yes, I did hear that I had seen a highly cut version. ... That's pretty interesting. The Siberian sections had a gentle lyricism and emotional quality that I...
Fred Camper
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Apr 13, 2007
3:15 pm

... I think this had more to do with the changes that occured to Nikita in the interim. I think his political ambitions really flared up in the meantime ...
Bilge Ebiri
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Apr 13, 2007
3:39 pm

... Bilge - Coincidentally, a few days ago I was looking through a stack of DVDs being sold for £1 each, and found a UK disc of your film NEW GUY. I of course...
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Apr 13, 2007
5:20 pm

... I've actually mentioned it a couple of times earlier on this board, but I feel self-conscious whenever I do, so I've since stopped talking about it. (I...
Bilge Ebiri
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Apr 13, 2007
5:33 pm

Now that I've finally seen Resnais' film, it's not difficult to agree, it is great. So much so that I'm even thinking about revisiting "Pas sur la bouche,"...
jess_l_amortell
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May 16, 2007
10:13 pm

... Why the antipathy to "Pas Sur La Bouche"? It had everything: wild overhead shots, stangely oversized sets and props, Lambert Wilson and a hedgehog. And as...
David Ehrenstein
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May 16, 2007
10:28 pm

... flattered but what he does in "Pas sur la bouche" has nothing to do with what is done in "I Love Melvin" __ and I wouldn't mind tossing the Resnais to the...
jpcoursodon
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May 17, 2007
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... Knowing and respecting the admiration for "La bouche" here, I'd always been reluctant to say that it struck me as a misguided attempt to revive an...
jess_l_amortell
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May 19, 2007
12:54 pm

... Well what film doesn't? But I suspect J-P's antipathy has a lot to do with the film's reactionary right-wing source material. It atrikes me that in this...
David Ehrenstein
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May 19, 2007
1:09 pm

... But isn't Wilson's performance also in what you call "a largely idiotic style"? I find it hard to take, it's so crudely overdone. JPC ... I don't know....
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May 19, 2007
11:49 pm

... I think that Bazin is a good way into PAS SUR LA BOUCHE. I was struck by how Bazin's writings on Resnais's early art documentary shorts still seemed to...
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May 28, 2007
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