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Re: viewing habits, invisibility

> Experiencing art is not like being etherized for an operation. It's
> above all a physical and emotional awareness. If you're not
intelligent,
> you're not aware.

By analogy: when we interact with another person, what we're affected
by and respond to includes body language, intonation, clothing, etc,
whether or not we make conscious mental notes of these things or can
recall them afterwards.

So maybe there are (at least) two types of noticing: we can notice an
actor's gestures, or we can notice that a character seems edgy and
confused, without realising or even thinking to ask what creates this
effect.

I agree that we have everything to gain as viewers and critics by
striving to be explicitly aware of as much as possible.

JTW





Sat Aug 9, 2003 2:19 pm

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A number of things said here recently, and particularly Fred's posts, have made me think about some of the ways that I look at film that in the past I've taken...
jaketwilson
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Aug 9, 2003
5:59 am

I think ultimately each person has to do what works best for him or her. But for the sake of discussion: Preminger's remark is ridiculous if taken literally....
Tag Gallagher
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Aug 9, 2003
6:50 am

... intelligent, ... By analogy: when we interact with another person, what we're affected by and respond to includes body language, intonation, clothing, etc,...
jaketwilson
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Aug 9, 2003
2:19 pm

... But more often than not, we do NOT notice these clues and body langauge, or else we do so hurriedly and get into big trouble. ... Now, were we discussing...
Tag Gallagher
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Aug 9, 2003
6:03 pm

... that, ... characters ... think ... Yes? Yes, absolutely. I do think intuitive perception comes first (we notice something, and then notice that we've...
jaketwilson
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Aug 10, 2003
4:14 am

I agree. But add: (1) cuts need to be experienced physically, not just intellectually. (2) "I may or may not be thinking about his editing strategies": In most...
Tag Gallagher
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Aug 10, 2003
4:48 am

I buy all this completely. Part of my point was that the physical experience has to precede the intellectual one. Can I add that while we can't do without...
jaketwilson
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Aug 10, 2003
5:43 am

... I don't see why it's necessarily reductive. Music is not reductive, even though it based entirely on physcial sensation and intellectual analysis of...
Tag Gallagher
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Aug 10, 2003
5:54 am

... even though it based entirely on physcial sensation and intellectual ... There is an almost ontological relationship between a perception and ... tune)....
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