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It seems our “sister” group has removed their banner for the CONSPIRACY ON THE POTA novel.

I wonder if I have missed something……

Michael

#56452

From: "Michael & Sally Whitty" <mswhitty@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:41 am
Subject: RE: Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further LIBERTYs....p244.

mike_oz2002

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I’m lost for words! J

Michael

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rassmguy
Sent: Sunday, 22 November 2009 12:17 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further LIBERTYs....p244.

I'm very curious about the dinosaur, which just seems to come out of left field. Then again, we have seen other giant mutated creatures in POTA: Kygoor and the flying serpent, from the cartoon, and giant reptiles in the novel Colony. And Doug Moench, had he continued Terror on the Planet of the Apes, would have introduced Her Midgitsy, a giant gorilla trapped by humans.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
>
> *** Forgot to add "as far as dinosaurs goes"... ***
>
> In a message dated 11/19/09 2:44:38 PM Central Standard Time, MLCCOUGAR
> writes:
>
> *** Probably trying to "Godzilla" it up a little bit?***
>
>
>
> In a message dated 11/19/09 2:42:13 PM Central Standard Time,
> ntfoster@... writes:
>
> Good point and I wonder if even getting it translated will explain what
> these strange deviations are all about.
>

#56451

From: "rassmguy" <handleyr@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:17 pm
Subject: Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further LIBERTYs....p244.

rassmguy

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I'm very curious about the dinosaur, which just seems to come out of left field.
Then again, we have seen other giant mutated creatures in POTA: Kygoor and the
flying serpent, from the cartoon, and giant reptiles in the novel Colony. And
Doug Moench, had he continued Terror on the Planet of the Apes, would have
introduced Her Midgitsy, a giant gorilla trapped by humans.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
>
> *** Forgot to add "as far as dinosaurs goes"... ***
>
> In a message dated 11/19/09 2:44:38 PM Central Standard Time, MLCCOUGAR
> writes:
>
> *** Probably trying to "Godzilla" it up a little  bit?***
>
>
>
> In a message dated 11/19/09 2:42:13 PM Central Standard Time,
> ntfoster@... writes:
>
> Good point and  I wonder if even getting it translated will explain what
> these strange  deviations are all about.
>

#56450

From: "Michael & Sally Whitty" <mswhitty@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:19 pm
Subject: RE: Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further LIBERTYs....p248 and...

mike_oz2002

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Neil and I met up today and Neil has taken the Mangas home to copy.

First he is paying most attention to the older one (and we found some more weird shit in that too).

But yes of course eventually all will be shown.

The way things are going we might just email to people privately because we are a bit shocked (and even more disappointed) that there really only seems to be 5 or 6 people in this group who think it’s worth saying something about the manga.

Michael

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Saturday, 21 November 2009 6:20 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further LIBERTYs....p248 and...

*** Any chance of seeing the "dinosaur" pictures or pre-crash early awakening of Stewart and company? ***

#56449

From: mlccougar@...
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:20 am
Subject: Re: Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further LIBERTYs....p248 and...

mlccougar

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*** Any chance of seeing the "dinosaur" pictures or pre-crash early awakening of Stewart and company? ***

#56448

From: "Michael & Sally Whitty" <mswhitty@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:31 am
Subject: RE: RE: Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further LIBERTYs....p248 and 249.

mike_oz2002

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Yup!

Top right to bottom left!

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Saturday, 21 November 2009 12:37 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: [PotaDG] Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further LIBERTYs....p248 and 249.

are you suppose to also read the panels right to left?

From: Dario Sciola <darios@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 8:32:38 AM
Subject: Re: RE: [PotaDG] Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further LIBERTYs....p248 and 249.

I wouldn't bother. It takes a few minutes to get used to it at first,
but once you start, it becomes almost just as natural as reading it
the 'traditional' way. No big deal really. Kinda cool when you think
about it. Expand you horizons. Another 'skill' to add to your resume.
And once you master it, you'll be able to pick up any other Manga
without fear!

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@dodo. com.au>
Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:45 am
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further
LIBERTYs.... p248 and 249.

> We may be able to do a mirror flip...but this is seeming a
> daunting project!
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On
> Behalf Of
> Neil Moxham
> Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2009 9:42 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further
> LIBERTYs.... p248 and 249.
>
>
>
>
>
> So I guess the panels will all have to be re-arranged as well?
> Should be
> easy enough, it's only 250 pages! ;-)
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG% 40yahoogroups. com> com,
> "NeilFoster" <ntfoster@.. .> wrote:
> >
> > Something that is also going to be strange when these pages are all
> scanned,
> > and I've noticed it already, is going against all our western
> instinctsand
> > having to read the panels 'backwards'.
> >
> > Neil T. Foster
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG% 40yahoogroups. com> com
> [mailto:PotaDG@ yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG% 40yahoogroups. com> com]
> On Behalf
> Of
> > Tim "apefan"
> > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:35 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG% 40yahoogroups. com> com
> > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further
> > LIBERTYs.... p248 and 249.
> >
> >
> > hmmmmmm..... I have no clue......how bizarre..... !
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@.. .>
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG% 40yahoogroups. com> com
> > Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 5:47:50 AM
> > Subject: [PotaDG] PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further
> LIBERTYs.... p248> and 249. [1 Attachment]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I have no frigging idea!!! :-)
> >
>
>
>
>

#56447

From: "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:58 am
Subject: POTA onscreen THIS SATURDAY in LONDON!

apefan23

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/blog/2009/nov/20/darwin-evolution-movies

http://www.thelexicinema.co.uk/

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#56446

From: "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:36 am
Subject: Re: RE: Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further LIBERTYs....p248 and 249.

apefan23

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are you suppose to also read the panels right to left?

#56445

From: mlccougar@...
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:20 pm
Subject: Re: Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further LIBERTYs....p244.

mlccougar

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*** Yes, the state charged that "Dr. Zira and a corrupt surgeon named Galen experimented on this wounded animal (Taylor). Tampering with his brain and throat tissues to create a speaking monster." While they do suggest experimentation on Taylor, there's no reference to experiments on other humans, though it is highly likely they did. ***

In a message dated 11/20/09 4:08:39 AM Central Standard Time, neilmoxham@... writes:

What is it they say about Dr Galen during the trial scene, that he and Zira were performing experiments or something?

#56444

From: "rassmguy" <handleyr@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:03 pm
Subject: Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further LIBERTYs....p248 and 249.

rassmguy

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A quick note about page-flipping.  Although I've never been a fan of manga at
all, I have read some because there have been both Star Wars and Star Trek
mangas in the past (none of them very good...basically, I wasted my time).  One
thing that I noticed with page-flipping is that any numbers in artwork end up
backwards--and if you re-letter in English, the word balloons are now in the
wrong order.  So it could require some extra work if you do translate.


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Moxham" <neilmoxham@...> wrote:
>
> Maybe we could see a side-by-side comparison of a flipped page? Maybe it could
be used for most paages with just the most obvious pages needing re-arranging?
(Statue of Liberty springs to mind)
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <mswhitty@> wrote:
> >
> > :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > I chatted to Neil briefly tonight about this and he has flipped some pages
> > and says it really does make things far easier for our brains to
> > comprehend.so we'll see!
> >
> >
> >
> > What do others think about this?
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> >   _____
> >
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > Dario Sciola
> > Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2009 11:33 PM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: RE: [PotaDG] Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further
> > LIBERTYs....p248 and 249.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I wouldn't bother. It takes a few minutes to get used to it at first,
> > but once you start, it becomes almost just as natural as reading it
> > the 'traditional' way. No big deal really. Kinda cool when you think
> > about it. Expand you horizons. Another 'skill' to add to your resume.
> > And once you master it, you'll be able to pick up any other Manga
> > without fear!
> >
> > Dario
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@dodo. <mailto:mswhitty%40dodo.com.au>
> > com.au>
> > Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:45 am
> > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further
> > LIBERTYs....p248 and 249.
> >
> > > We may be able to do a mirror flip...but this is seeming a
> > > daunting project!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > [mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com] On
> > > Behalf Of
> > > Neil Moxham
> > > Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2009 9:42 PM
> > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further
> > > LIBERTYs....p248 and 249.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > So I guess the panels will all have to be re-arranged as well?
> > > Should be
> > > easy enough, it's only 250 pages! ;-)
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com,
> > > "NeilFoster" <ntfoster@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Something that is also going to be strange when these pages are all
> > > scanned,
> > > > and I've noticed it already, is going against all our western
> > > instinctsand
> > > > having to read the panels 'backwards'.
> > > >
> > > > Neil T. Foster
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > > [mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com]
> > > On Behalf
> > > Of
> > > > Tim "apefan"
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:35 AM
> > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further
> > > > LIBERTYs....p248 and 249.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > hmmmmmm.....I have no clue......how bizarre.....!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _____
> > > >
> > > > From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@>
> > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > > > Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 5:47:50 AM
> > > > Subject: [PotaDG] PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further
> > > LIBERTYs....p248> and 249. [1 Attachment]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have no frigging idea!!! :-)
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

#56443

From: Rich Handley <handleyr@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:28 pm
Subject: Re: Digest Number 4053

rassmguy

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>Posted by: "Michael & Sally Whitty" mswhitty@... mike_oz2002
>WOW!
>This seems to be the month for uncovering rare comic gems!

I was thinking the same thing.

>Thanks Rich for the hard work you have done to discover these and thanks
>Hunter for (yet again) hosting and making these available,

Any time.  I practically drooled when Ed Haber told me what he had in
his possession.  Unfortunately, I'm STILL no closer to figuring out
who drew it, as Sonny Trinidad's family is adamant that it wasn't
him, despite the evidence.  If only the credits page had been among
them.  I also hope we soon find the last page, so we can figure out
how many more pages are missing.  Since issue #30 was supposed to be
a double-issue, and since the grim ending of the story (as revealed
in the opening panel) is nowhere near to happening in the 16 pages we
now know of, this might have been a rather long story, which would
mean there's a lot left to find.

>Posted by: "Neil Foster" ntfoster@... munkeyman63au
>Wow, well done Rich I'm downloading this right now, thanks.

Enjoy!  The story, now that we have some context to it, seems like it
might have been one of the best of the Marvel run, so it's really a
shame that it was never published.

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#56442

From: "Neil Moxham" <neilmoxham@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:51 am
Subject: Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further LIBERTYs....p248 and 249.

nlmoxham

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Maybe we could see a side-by-side comparison of a flipped page? Maybe it could
be used for most paages with just the most obvious pages needing re-arranging?
(Statue of Liberty springs to mind)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <mswhitty@...> wrote:
>
> :-)
>
>
>
> I chatted to Neil briefly tonight about this and he has flipped some pages
> and says it really does make things far easier for our brains to
> comprehend.so we'll see!
>
>
>
> What do others think about this?
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Dario Sciola
> Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2009 11:33 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: RE: [PotaDG] Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further
> LIBERTYs....p248 and 249.
>
>
>
>
>
> I wouldn't bother. It takes a few minutes to get used to it at first,
> but once you start, it becomes almost just as natural as reading it
> the 'traditional' way. No big deal really. Kinda cool when you think
> about it. Expand you horizons. Another 'skill' to add to your resume.
> And once you master it, you'll be able to pick up any other Manga
> without fear!
>
> Dario
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@dodo. <mailto:mswhitty%40dodo.com.au>
> com.au>
> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:45 am
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further
> LIBERTYs....p248 and 249.
>
> > We may be able to do a mirror flip...but this is seeming a
> > daunting project!
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> [mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com] On
> > Behalf Of
> > Neil Moxham
> > Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2009 9:42 PM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further
> > LIBERTYs....p248 and 249.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > So I guess the panels will all have to be re-arranged as well?
> > Should be
> > easy enough, it's only 250 pages! ;-)
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com,
> > "NeilFoster" <ntfoster@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Something that is also going to be strange when these pages are all
> > scanned,
> > > and I've noticed it already, is going against all our western
> > instinctsand
> > > having to read the panels 'backwards'.
> > >
> > > Neil T. Foster
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > [mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com]
> > On Behalf
> > Of
> > > Tim "apefan"
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:35 AM
> > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further
> > > LIBERTYs....p248 and 249.
> > >
> > >
> > > hmmmmmm.....I have no clue......how bizarre.....!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@>
> > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > > Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 5:47:50 AM
> > > Subject: [PotaDG] PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further
> > LIBERTYs....p248> and 249. [1 Attachment]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have no frigging idea!!! :-)
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

#56441

From: "Neil Moxham" <neilmoxham@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:09 am
Subject: Re: Forbidden Zone Prime--a "lost" Marvel Comics tale

nlmoxham

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Excellent, thanks Rich.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, folks,
>
> Some time back, I unearthed an unpublished page from Marvel, containing a
chimp named Viraga. For a while, that was the only known page from that story,
until last year, when three more pages surfaced.
>
> Now, I've located six more, thanks to POTA fan Ed Haber, bringing the total
known pages up to 10.  Those pages are now available on Hunter's site, in the
Marvel Ultimate Edition section.  The new pages contain a title for the story,
"Forbidden Zone Prime," and offer a much better idea of what it's about.
>
> Unfortunately, we still don't have the page listing the artist, who remains a
mystery, nor do we yet know how long the tale is. But I'm starting to have faith
that the rest of the story may some day emerge!
>
> Enjoy!
>
> http://pota.goatley.com/marvel-ultimate.html
>
> Rich
>

#56440

From: "Neil Moxham" <neilmoxham@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:08 am
Subject: Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further LIBERTYs....p244.

nlmoxham

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Maybe it wasn't just a straight translation though, they might have taken
liberties when dubbing the film into Japanese aswell. They could have
embellished the dialogue to suggest other stuff was happening. What is it they
say about Dr Galen during the trial scene, that he and Zira were performing
experiments or something?

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
>
> *** Wouldn't PLANET have played in Japan by 1971 ? If it did, you'd  think
> "someone" on their staff would have seen the film and known what was
> incorrect in the Magna? ***
>
>
> In a message dated 11/19/09 5:47:43 AM Central Standard Time,
> mswhitty@... writes:
>
> Again I think it’s a  translation thing….maybe the word for revealed
> translates to tore out of a  mountain?
>

#56439

From: Dario Sciola <darios@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:58 am
Subject: Re: 2010 Apes Calendar

lmcdasc

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Thanks to both of you.
Nothing like starting off the new year with a POTA calendar.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...>
Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009 4:45 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] 2010 Apes Calendar

> James Aquila sent me a PDF of a 2010 calendar that celebrates the 40th
> anniversary of BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES.  You can download the
> calendar from my Apes site:
>
> http://pota.goatley.com/
>
> Thanks, James!
>
> Hunter
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> To visit your group on the web, go to:
>    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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#56438

From: Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:45 pm
Subject: 2010 Apes Calendar

huntergoatley

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James Aquila sent me a PDF of a 2010 calendar that celebrates the 40th
anniversary of BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES.  You can download the
calendar from my Apes site:

http://pota.goatley.com/

Thanks, James!

Hunter

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#56437

From: "Muppet John" <DrZaiusDavis@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:36 pm
Subject: Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further LIBERTYs....p244.

drzaiusdavis

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Let's not bring Godzilla into this strage little Manga world. ;)



--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
>
> *** Probably trying to "Godzilla" it up a little bit?  ***
>
>
>
> In a message dated 11/19/09 2:42:13 PM Central Standard Time,
> ntfoster@... writes:
>
> Good point and I  wonder if even getting it translated will explain what
> these strange  deviations are all about.
>

#56436

From: "Muppet John" <DrZaiusDavis@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:33 pm
Subject: Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further LIBERTYs....p248 and 249.

drzaiusdavis

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Oh, I fear picking up any more Manga's. Muhahahahahahaha!!! I fear it like Dr.
Zaius fears Taylor.



--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
>
> I wouldn't bother. It takes a few minutes to get used to it at first,
> but once you start, it becomes almost just as natural as reading it
> the 'traditional' way. No big deal really. Kinda cool when you think
> about it. Expand you horizons. Another 'skill' to add to your resume.
> And once you master it, you'll be able to pick up any other Manga
> without fear!
>
> Dario
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@...>
> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:45 am
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further
> LIBERTYs....p248 and 249.
>
> > We may be able to do a mirror flip...but this is seeming a
> > daunting project!
> >
> >
> >
> >  _____
> >
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of
> > Neil Moxham
> > Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2009 9:42 PM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further
> > LIBERTYs....p248 and 249.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > So I guess the panels will all have to be re-arranged as well?
> > Should be
> > easy enough, it's only 250 pages! ;-)
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com,
> > "NeilFoster" <ntfoster@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Something that is also going to be strange when these pages are all
> > scanned,
> > > and I've noticed it already, is going against all our western
> > instinctsand
> > > having to read the panels 'backwards'.
> > >
> > > Neil T. Foster
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > [mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com]
> > On Behalf
> > Of
> > > Tim "apefan"
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:35 AM
> > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further
> > > LIBERTYs....p248 and 249.
> > >
> > >
> > > hmmmmmm.....I have no clue......how bizarre.....!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@>
> > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > > Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 5:47:50 AM
> > > Subject: [PotaDG] PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further
> > LIBERTYs....p248> and 249. [1 Attachment]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have no frigging idea!!! :-)
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

#56435

From: "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:56 pm
Subject: RE: Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further LIBERTYs....p248 and...

munkeyman63au

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Same here, when I read 'Japanese style' I find I have to think about what I'm doing which is distracting. I have a few mangas and have regularly 'read' them and still find myself thinking about how I'm reading them every time. I'm sure like Dario says it becomes easier but I would still prefer to read them 'English style' myself but whether just reversing the pages will work I'm not sure, we'll end up with the gorillas' bandoliers going the wrong way and stuff .That leaves a very time consuming alternative.

Neil T. Foster

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 6:38 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further LIBERTYs....p248 and...

*** I prefer reading left to right, top to bottom. ***

In a message dated 11/19/09 7:39:50 AM Central Standard Time, mswhitty@dodo.com.au writes:

What do others think about this?

#56434

From: mlccougar@...
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:47 pm
Subject: Re: Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further LIBERTYs....p244.

mlccougar

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*** Forgot to add "as far as dinosaurs goes"... ***

In a message dated 11/19/09 2:44:38 PM Central Standard Time, MLCCOUGAR writes:

*** Probably trying to "Godzilla" it up a little bit?***

In a message dated 11/19/09 2:42:13 PM Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:

Good point and I wonder if even getting it translated will explain what these strange deviations are all about.

#56433

From: mlccougar@...
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:44 pm
Subject: Re: Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further LIBERTYs....p244.

mlccougar

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*** Probably trying to "Godzilla" it up a little bit? ***

In a message dated 11/19/09 2:42:13 PM Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:

Good point and I wonder if even getting it translated will explain what these strange deviations are all about.

#56432

From: "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:41 pm
Subject: RE: Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further LIBERTYs....p244.

munkeyman63au

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Good point and I wonder if even getting it translated will explain what these strange deviations are all about.

Neil T. Foster

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 6:37 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further LIBERTYs....p244.

*** Wouldn't PLANET have played in Japan by 1971 ? If it did, you'd think "someone" on their staff would have seen the film and known what was incorrect in the Magna? ***

In a message dated 11/19/09 5:47:43 AM Central Standard Time, mswhitty@dodo.com.au writes:

Again I think it’s a translation thing….maybe the word for revealed translates to tore out of a mountain?

#56431

From: mlccougar@...
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:38 pm
Subject: Re: Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further LIBERTYs....p248 and...

mlccougar

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*** I prefer reading left to right, top to bottom. ***

In a message dated 11/19/09 7:39:50 AM Central Standard Time, mswhitty@... writes:

What do others think about this?

#56430

From: mlccougar@...
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:36 pm
Subject: Re: Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further LIBERTYs....p244.

mlccougar

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*** Wouldn't PLANET have played in Japan by 1971 ? If it did, you'd think "someone" on their staff would have seen the film and known what was incorrect in the Magna? ***

In a message dated 11/19/09 5:47:43 AM Central Standard Time, mswhitty@... writes:

Again I think it’s a translation thing….maybe the word for revealed translates to tore out of a mountain?

#56429

From: "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:33 pm
Subject: RE: Forbidden Zone Prime--a "lost" Marvel Comics tale

munkeyman63au

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Wow, well done Rich I'm downloading this right now, thanks.

Neil T. Foster

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rassmguy
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 2:46 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Forbidden Zone Prime--a "lost" Marvel Comics tale

Hi, folks,

Some time back, I unearthed an unpublished page from Marvel, containing a chimp named Viraga. For a while, that was the only known page from that story, until last year, when three more pages surfaced.

Now, I've located six more, thanks to POTA fan Ed Haber, bringing the total known pages up to 10. Those pages are now available on Hunter's site, in the Marvel Ultimate Edition section. The new pages contain a title for the story, "Forbidden Zone Prime," and offer a much better idea of what it's about.

Unfortunately, we still don't have the page listing the artist, who remains a mystery, nor do we yet know how long the tale is. But I'm starting to have faith that the rest of the story may some day emerge!

Enjoy!

http://pota.goatley.com/marvel-ultimate.html

Rich

#56428

From: "Michael & Sally Whitty" <mswhitty@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:35 pm
Subject: RE: Forbidden Zone Prime--a "lost" Marvel Comics tale

mike_oz2002

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WOW!

This seems to be the month for uncovering rare comic gems!

Thanks Rich for the hard work you have done to discover these and thanks Hunter for (yet again) hosting and making these available,

EXCITING STUFF!!!

Michael

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rassmguy
Sent: Friday, 20 November 2009 2:46 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Forbidden Zone Prime--a "lost" Marvel Comics tale

Hi, folks,

Some time back, I unearthed an unpublished page from Marvel, containing a chimp named Viraga. For a while, that was the only known page from that story, until last year, when three more pages surfaced.

Now, I've located six more, thanks to POTA fan Ed Haber, bringing the total known pages up to 10. Those pages are now available on Hunter's site, in the Marvel Ultimate Edition section. The new pages contain a title for the story, "Forbidden Zone Prime," and offer a much better idea of what it's about.

Unfortunately, we still don't have the page listing the artist, who remains a mystery, nor do we yet know how long the tale is. But I'm starting to have faith that the rest of the story may some day emerge!

Enjoy!

http://pota.goatley.com/marvel-ultimate.html

Rich

#56427

From: "rassmguy" <handleyr@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:45 pm
Subject: Forbidden Zone Prime--a "lost" Marvel Comics tale

rassmguy

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Hi, folks,

Some time back, I unearthed an unpublished page from Marvel, containing a chimp
named Viraga. For a while, that was the only known page from that story, until
last year, when three more pages surfaced.

Now, I've located six more, thanks to POTA fan Ed Haber, bringing the total
known pages up to 10.  Those pages are now available on Hunter's site, in the
Marvel Ultimate Edition section.  The new pages contain a title for the story,
"Forbidden Zone Prime," and offer a much better idea of what it's about.

Unfortunately, we still don't have the page listing the artist, who remains a
mystery, nor do we yet know how long the tale is. But I'm starting to have faith
that the rest of the story may some day emerge!

Enjoy!

http://pota.goatley.com/marvel-ultimate.html

Rich

#56426

From: "Michael & Sally Whitty" <mswhitty@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:39 pm
Subject: RE: RE: Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further LIBERTYs....p248 and 249.

mike_oz2002

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I chatted to Neil briefly tonight about this and he has flipped some pages and says it really does make things far easier for our brains to comprehend…so we’ll see!

What do others think about this?

Michael

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dario Sciola
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2009 11:33 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: [PotaDG] Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further LIBERTYs....p248 and 249.

I wouldn't bother. It takes a few minutes to get used to it at first,
but once you start, it becomes almost just as natural as reading it
the 'traditional' way. No big deal really. Kinda cool when you think
about it. Expand you horizons. Another 'skill' to add to your resume.
And once you master it, you'll be able to pick up any other Manga
without fear!

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@dodo.com.au>
Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:45 am
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further
LIBERTYs....p248 and 249.

> We may be able to do a mirror flip...but this is seeming a
> daunting project!
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of
> Neil Moxham
> Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2009 9:42 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further
> LIBERTYs....p248 and 249.
>
>
>
>
>
> So I guess the panels will all have to be re-arranged as well?
> Should be
> easy enough, it's only 250 pages! ;-)
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com,
> "NeilFoster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
> >
> > Something that is also going to be strange when these pages are all
> scanned,
> > and I've noticed it already, is going against all our western
> instinctsand
> > having to read the panels 'backwards'.
> >
> > Neil T. Foster
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> [mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com]
> On Behalf
> Of
> > Tim "apefan"
> > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:35 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further
> > LIBERTYs....p248 and 249.
> >
> >
> > hmmmmmm.....I have no clue......how bizarre.....!
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@...>
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 5:47:50 AM
> > Subject: [PotaDG] PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further
> LIBERTYs....p248> and 249. [1 Attachment]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I have no frigging idea!!! :-)
> >
>
>
>
>

#56425

From: Dario Sciola <darios@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:32 pm
Subject: Re: RE: Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further LIBERTYs....p248 and 249.

lmcdasc

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I wouldn't bother. It takes a few minutes to get used to it at first,
but once you start, it becomes almost just as natural as reading it
the 'traditional' way. No big deal really. Kinda cool when you think
about it. Expand you horizons. Another 'skill' to add to your resume.
And once you master it, you'll be able to pick up any other Manga
without fear!

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@...>
Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:45 am
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further
LIBERTYs....p248 and 249.

> We may be able to do a mirror flip...but this is seeming a
> daunting project!
>
>
>
>  _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of
> Neil Moxham
> Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2009 9:42 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further
> LIBERTYs....p248 and 249.
>
>
>
>
>
> So I guess the panels will all have to be re-arranged as well?
> Should be
> easy enough, it's only 250 pages! ;-)
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com,
> "NeilFoster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
> >
> > Something that is also going to be strange when these pages are all
> scanned,
> > and I've noticed it already, is going against all our western
> instinctsand
> > having to read the panels 'backwards'.
> >
> > Neil T. Foster
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> [mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com]
> On Behalf
> Of
> > Tim "apefan"
> > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:35 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further
> > LIBERTYs....p248 and 249.
> >
> >
> > hmmmmmm.....I have no clue......how bizarre.....!
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@...>
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 5:47:50 AM
> > Subject: [PotaDG] PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further
> LIBERTYs....p248> and 249. [1 Attachment]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I have no frigging idea!!! :-)
> >
>
>
>
>

#56424

From: "Michael & Sally Whitty" <mswhitty@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:47 am
Subject: RE: Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further LIBERTYs....p244.

mike_oz2002

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Again I think it’s a translation thing….maybe the word for revealed translates to tore out of a mountain? ;)

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Moxham
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2009 9:40 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further LIBERTYs....p244.

Well he only prints the different revisions of the last scene, but I think he might have mentioned something significant like that if it HAD appeared. Another thing is that at this point in the script revisions the apes are still flying around in helicopters, etc, so maybe it really is just a coincidence. I'm just wondering now if someone watching the movie first time around could make an assumption that the statue was somehow uncovered by the explosion. Probably not, I think...

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> Very interesting indeed, any stitched together humans in that script?
>
> Neil T. Foster
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Neil Moxham
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:44 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: PLANET OF THE APES Manga 1971 - further
> LIBERTYs....p244.
>
>
>
>
> Now this is interesting. Paul A. Woods, in his 'Planet of the Apes
> Chronicles' quotes Rod Serling's draft script from 17 December 1964:
>
> "As sections of earth, loosened by the explosions [at the archaeological
> site], begin to shift and move and then sink. This movement takes the form
> of a running line like an earthquake fault snaking across the ground until
> it reaches one point and from the earth emerges a GIANT METAL ARM..."
>
> Coincidence?
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Michael &
> Sally Whitty" <mswhitty@> wrote:
> >
> > As promised, here's the finale of the 1971 Manga where it seems there's an
> > explosion that causes..well.something it didn't in the movie!
> >
> > And now my "liberty" pun becomes more obvious! :-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > .
> >
>