http://www.threadbanger.com/episode/THR_20090603

How to make spats.

Mirimaran

--- In LOTR_Costume@yahoogroups.com, "Mickey Flint" <mickeyhaugh@...> wrote:
>
> Hey all, looking to make the leg coverings for my Ranger costume.
>
> They look a bit like Spats.has anyone made these? and if so, do you have a
pattern that you used?
>
> Thanks, Mickey
>

I'd also recommend using a pair of your existing boots as a basic pattern
for width etc.  I have large calves, and find this is necessary for scaling
purposes.
-Kim
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Judy Mitchell <judymitch@...>wrote:

>
>
> Check out <http://community.livejournal.com/steamfashion/525310.html>
> 0ok, so it's aimed for women making steampunk spats... same basic
> principle, shape to taste.
> -Judy
>
>
> Mickey Flint wrote:
> > Hey all, looking to make the leg coverings for my Ranger costume.
> >
> > They look a bit like Spats.has anyone made these? and if so, do you have
> a pattern that you used?
> >
> > Thanks, Mickey
>
>
>



--
-Kim


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Check out <http://community.livejournal.com/steamfashion/525310.html>
0ok, so it's aimed for women making steampunk spats... same basic
principle, shape to taste.
	 -Judy

Mickey Flint wrote:
> Hey all, looking to make the leg coverings for my Ranger costume.
>
> They look a bit like Spats.has anyone made these? and if so, do you have a
pattern that you used?
>
> Thanks, Mickey

Hi Mickey,

Take a look at these files for clear instructions and diagrams for making a
pattern which fits your legs:

http://www.nwta.com/patterns/pdfs/212fullg.pdf
and
http://www.nwta.com/patterns/pdfs/214spat.pdf

Sometimes patterns for spats can also be searched using the term "gaiters,"
since that is how they have been known for some reenactor uniforms.

good luck!
Thomas

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Mickey Flint <mickeyhaugh@...> wrote:

>
>
> Hey all, looking to make the leg coverings for my Ranger costume.
>
> They look a bit like Spats.has anyone made these? and if so, do you have a
> pattern that you used?
>
> Thanks, Mickey
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hey all, looking to make the leg coverings for my Ranger costume.

They look a bit like Spats.has anyone made these? and if so, do you have a
pattern that you used?

Thanks, Mickey

Black is the trickiest of all colors to get.  Depending on the dye and the
fabric used, they can cast green, red, purple or blue and often take LOTS of dye
to get beyond that.  There's a reason there are like 6 colors of black dye in
the fiber reactive ones from Procion.  Maybe keep trying to overdye until you
get it dark enough or try a different type of dye that's more suited to the
fibers of your fabric.  The tea shouldn't have affected it.  If all else fails,
shoot Dharma Trading (dharmatrading.com) an email with your conundrum.  They've
always been great about responding with advice and help with choosing products.

Good luck!

Mel




>
> Hi all,
>
> Again, my dye efforts have gone awry. Here's what happened. I have an old
shirt
> that I tea-dyed last month, and after doing some modifications to it I was
going
> to dye it black as part of my Ranger garb. I used 2 packs of Dylon velvet
black,
> followed the directions, but when I got the shirt out of the dryer it came out
> green! I am guessing I should have stripped the tea stain first, or does black
> turn green? The dye looked to have a blue base. Any ideas? Comments?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mirimaran

Hi all,

Again, my dye efforts have gone awry. Here's what happened. I have an old shirt
that I tea-dyed last month, and after doing some modifications to it I was going
to dye it black as part of my Ranger garb. I used 2 packs of Dylon velvet black,
followed the directions, but when I got the shirt out of the dryer it came out
green! I am guessing I should have stripped the tea stain first, or does black
turn green? The dye looked to have a blue base. Any ideas? Comments?

Thanks,

Mirimaran

These kinds of marking pens are great on anything but wools.  Solvy is probably
your best best.  It's a pain to remove all the tiny pieces that get caught up in
the embroidery but it will be the quick route.

faye
www.simbelmyne.us

--- In LOTR_Costume@yahoogroups.com, Judy Mitchell <judymitch@...> wrote:
>
> Sandra wrote:
> > I am doing embroidery on my cloak.  The fabric is a loosely-woven slightly
tufted wool.  I am having a devil of a time getting the pattern that I want
transferred onto the wool long enough to actually embroider over it.  I have
tried soapstone pencils, chalk, and actually basting through a tissue-tracing. 
The basting works, but it takes 2 hours to baste the pattern and remove the
paper vs one hour to actually do the embroidery per element.  So it triples my
time.  I'm getting fairly desperate because 1) I'd like to finish the cape
within my lifetime (LOL) and 2) I have three other capes in the pipeline and
need to get this one off my mannequin.  Suggestions would be gratefully
appreciated.
> >
>  there is a quilting product called a One-step Pen, it works with
> regular printer paper. You trace over the paper on the fabric with the
> pen and the ink bleeds through to the fabric marking it. Supposedly the
> ink fades out like the disappearing pens. I have only seen them online,
> I haven't found one in stores, so I haven't been able to try it out. It
> might help. Mostly I think that the fabric you're working with is just
> going to be a bear for transferring patterns onto.
>  -Judy
>

Hmmm, this might also work, and most certainly would for the next cape which
will be oak leaves and vines per the request of the person I will be making it
for.  That's two great ideas and some products to try.  I'm off and running with
this project again - now to just find some time to work on personal projects
instead of holiday gifts or working at the shop.

Thanks to everyone!!

Sandra Graves, Isis Rising
IsisRising08 @ aol.com
Artistic Endeavors with Wings of Light

Blog at http://sandragravesisisrising.blogspot.com/
Website at http://IsisRising08.com

Stormcloud Trading Co (Beadstorm)
More than "Just" a Beadstore
<http://www.beadstorm.com/>
Saint Paul, Minnesota USA
651-645-0343


--- In LOTR_Costume@yahoogroups.com, "Cat D" <CatDevereaux@...> wrote:
>
> Just stumbled on this today... kinda a dah! moment.
>
> http://www.clotilde.com/detail.html?prod_id=1182
>
> Trace on mesh, then chalk or pen over it.
>
> -Cat-
>

I'll look for this.  If I can just transfer a thin line, that's really all that
I need and the embroidery will cover all of it.  Eventually the cloak will be
washed, but I really would rather avoid washing it until it needs it.  Just one
messy, muddy fest day and it'll be in the wash that night - LOL.  I feel
encouraged by the fact that your fabric had a nap and the pen still worked.

Sandra Graves, Isis Rising
IsisRising08 @ aol.com
Artistic Endeavors with Wings of Light

Blog at http://sandragravesisisrising.blogspot.com/
Website at http://IsisRising08.com

Stormcloud Trading Co (Beadstorm)
More than "Just" a Beadstore
<http://www.beadstorm.com/>
Saint Paul, Minnesota USA
651-645-0343


--- In LOTR_Costume@yahoogroups.com, "caerdhwynn" <caerdhwynn@...> wrote:
>
> There is a product I found at Michael's in the aisle
> with the fabric paint. It's a pen made by "Sulky" and it's packaged
> in a blue and black blister pack. Use it just like a marker - it
> turns anything you draw or trace on plain paper into a re-useable
> iron-on transfer. The one I bought was black, and could do fine
> lines or thick ones depending on the pressure you use. It says it
> works best on light or pastel colored poly-cotton blends, but it
> showed up perfectly on my medium grey "sueded corduroy" fabric.
> (Just be careful that if you lift the design up to check the quality
> of the transfer, to put it back exactly in the same spot - I don't
> know if the ink washes out if you make a mistake!)
>
> I think they also make a pen that will mark white lines on dark
> fabrics.
>
> I used this pen to transfer the designs for the collar and sleeves
> onto my Chase dress - I'd been worrying about how to do it, as
> regular transfer paper just wasn't doing the job since my fabric had
> a bit of a nap to it. It worked great and was so much quicker and
> easier than any other method I'd read about.
>
> I hope this is helpful!
>
> Caerdhwyn
>
>
>
>
> --- In LOTR_Costume@yahoogroups.com, "Sandra" <BeadStorm@> wrote:
> >
> > I am doing embroidery on my cloak.  The fabric is a loosely-woven slightly
tufted wool.  I am having a devil of a time getting the pattern that I want
transferred onto the wool long enough to actually embroider over it.  I have
tried soapstone pencils, chalk, and actually basting through a tissue-tracing. 
The basting works, but it takes 2 hours to baste the pattern and remove the
paper vs one hour to actually do the embroidery per element.  So it triples my
time.  I'm getting fairly desperate because 1) I'd like to finish the cape
within my lifetime (LOL) and 2) I have three other capes in the pipeline and
need to get this one off my mannequin.  Suggestions would be gratefully
appreciated.
> >
> >
> > Sandra Graves, Isis Rising
> > IsisRising08 @ aol.com
> > Artistic Endeavors with Wings of Light
> >
> > Blog at http://sandragravesisisrising.blogspot.com/
> > Website at www.IsisRising08.com
> >
> > Stormcloud Trading Co (Beadstorm)
> > More than "Just" a Beadstore
> > <http://www.beadstorm.com/>
> > Saint Paul, Minnesota USA
> > 651-645-0343
> >
>

Unfortunately, I think you're absolutely correct, Judy.  But it is an awesome
cloak fabric and the color is fantastic, so I'm putting up with the problems. 
I'm just hoping that the costumers here might have a solution for me that I
haven't thought of or tried :-)


Sandra Graves, Isis Rising
IsisRising08 @ aol.com
Artistic Endeavors with Wings of Light

Blog at http://sandragravesisisrising.blogspot.com/
Website at http://IsisRising08.com

Stormcloud Trading Co (Beadstorm)
More than "Just" a Beadstore
<http://www.beadstorm.com/>
Saint Paul, Minnesota USA
651-645-0343


  Mostly I think that the fabric you're working with is just
> going to be a bear for transferring patterns onto.
>  -Judy
>

I'll certainly think about the Sulky, but I'm hoping to avoid having to immerse
the finished into into the washer to get rid of the solvent.  It is certainly an
option, however, and I thank you.


Sandra Graves, Isis Rising
IsisRising08 @ aol.com
Artistic Endeavors with Wings of Light

Blog at http://sandragravesisisrising.blogspot.com/
Website at http://IsisRising08.com

Stormcloud Trading Co (Beadstorm)
More than "Just" a Beadstore
<http://www.beadstorm.com/>
Saint Paul, Minnesota USA
651-645-0343


--- In LOTR_Costume@yahoogroups.com, Sandra Rangel <arwynn16@...> wrote:
>
> I have a friend who uses this product (or something similar) for her
> blackwork embroidery.... this may help you as it is water soluable but is
> better than the tissue. http://www.sulky.com/stabilizers/solvy.php
>
> Laterz,
>
> Rohesia
>
> *~back to lurking*
>

Very good guys! It is indeed Gandalf's belt & embroidery. It's a great
opportunity to see what the belt actually looks like and to see the
embroidery a bit.

	 -Judy

Just stumbled on this today... kinda a dah! moment.

http://www.clotilde.com/detail.html?prod_id=1182

Trace on mesh, then chalk or pen over it.

-Cat-

>> I have to agree, looks like the embroidery from Gandalf's cloak next
to his belt. It appears more blue in the pics than on screen.

Yup, a lot of the pics are NOT true color.  I do whatever I have to do
to bring up the detail.  Where I can, I note what's a true color... and
I'll be better at that note going forward.

  >> Sure is a great close up of the embroidery, so many cool details on
every costume.

Nice chance to see both together.  I like to pull out detail shots like
that because on the big pic, even if it's high rez, it's stuff that gets
missed.  (I love chopping and enhance photos, dah.)

-Cat-

I have to agree, looks like the embroidery from Gandalf's cloak next to his
belt. It appears more blue in the pics than on screen. Sure is a great close up
of the embroidery, so many cool details on every costume.
Rebecca Neume

---

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I'm guessing Galdalf for no better reason than the coarseness of the fabric.  I
don't really recognize it - or the color.

There is a product I found at Michael's in the aisle
with the fabric paint. It's a pen made by "Sulky" and it's packaged
in a blue and black blister pack. Use it just like a marker - it
turns anything you draw or trace on plain paper into a re-useable
iron-on transfer. The one I bought was black, and could do fine
lines or thick ones depending on the pressure you use. It says it
works best on light or pastel colored poly-cotton blends, but it
showed up perfectly on my medium grey "sueded corduroy" fabric.
(Just be careful that if you lift the design up to check the quality
of the transfer, to put it back exactly in the same spot - I don't
know if the ink washes out if you make a mistake!)

I think they also make a pen that will mark white lines on dark
fabrics.

I used this pen to transfer the designs for the collar and sleeves
onto my Chase dress - I'd been worrying about how to do it, as
regular transfer paper just wasn't doing the job since my fabric had
a bit of a nap to it. It worked great and was so much quicker and
easier than any other method I'd read about.

I hope this is helpful!

Caerdhwyn




--- In LOTR_Costume@yahoogroups.com, "Sandra" <BeadStorm@...> wrote:
>
> I am doing embroidery on my cloak.  The fabric is a loosely-woven slightly
tufted wool.  I am having a devil of a time getting the pattern that I want
transferred onto the wool long enough to actually embroider over it.  I have
tried soapstone pencils, chalk, and actually basting through a tissue-tracing. 
The basting works, but it takes 2 hours to baste the pattern and remove the
paper vs one hour to actually do the embroidery per element.  So it triples my
time.  I'm getting fairly desperate because 1) I'd like to finish the cape
within my lifetime (LOL) and 2) I have three other capes in the pipeline and
need to get this one off my mannequin.  Suggestions would be gratefully
appreciated.
>
>
> Sandra Graves, Isis Rising
> IsisRising08 @ aol.com
> Artistic Endeavors with Wings of Light
>
> Blog at http://sandragravesisisrising.blogspot.com/
> Website at www.IsisRising08.com
>
> Stormcloud Trading Co (Beadstorm)
> More than "Just" a Beadstore
> <http://www.beadstorm.com/>
> Saint Paul, Minnesota USA
> 651-645-0343
>

Sandra wrote:
> I am doing embroidery on my cloak.  The fabric is a loosely-woven slightly
tufted wool.  I am having a devil of a time getting the pattern that I want
transferred onto the wool long enough to actually embroider over it.  I have
tried soapstone pencils, chalk, and actually basting through a tissue-tracing. 
The basting works, but it takes 2 hours to baste the pattern and remove the
paper vs one hour to actually do the embroidery per element.  So it triples my
time.  I'm getting fairly desperate because 1) I'd like to finish the cape
within my lifetime (LOL) and 2) I have three other capes in the pipeline and
need to get this one off my mannequin.  Suggestions would be gratefully
appreciated.
>
	 there is a quilting product called a One-step Pen, it works with
regular printer paper. You trace over the paper on the fabric with the
pen and the ink bleeds through to the fabric marking it. Supposedly the
ink fades out like the disappearing pens. I have only seen them online,
I haven't found one in stores, so I haven't been able to try it out. It
might help. Mostly I think that the fabric you're working with is just
going to be a bear for transferring patterns onto.
	 -Judy

I have a friend who uses this product (or something similar) for her
blackwork embroidery.... this may help you as it is water soluable but is
better than the tissue. http://www.sulky.com/stabilizers/solvy.php

Laterz,

Rohesia

*~back to lurking*

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Sandra <BeadStorm@...> wrote:

>
>
> I am doing embroidery on my cloak. The fabric is a loosely-woven slightly
> tufted wool. I am having a devil of a time getting the pattern that I want
> transferred onto the wool long enough to actually embroider over it. I have
> tried soapstone pencils, chalk, and actually basting through a
> tissue-tracing. The basting works, but it takes 2 hours to baste the pattern
> and remove the paper vs one hour to actually do the embroidery per element.
> So it triples my time. I'm getting fairly desperate because 1) I'd like to
> finish the cape within my lifetime (LOL) and 2) I have three other capes in
> the pipeline and need to get this one off my mannequin. Suggestions would be
> gratefully appreciated.
>
> Sandra Graves, Isis Rising
> IsisRising08 @ aol.com
> Artistic Endeavors with Wings of Light
>
> Blog at http://sandragravesisisrising.blogspot.com/
> Website at www.IsisRising08.com <http://www.isisrising08.com/>
>
> Stormcloud Trading Co (Beadstorm)
> More than "Just" a Beadstore
> <http://www.beadstorm.com/>
> Saint Paul, Minnesota USA
> 651-645-0343
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I am doing embroidery on my cloak.  The fabric is a loosely-woven slightly
tufted wool.  I am having a devil of a time getting the pattern that I want
transferred onto the wool long enough to actually embroider over it.  I have
tried soapstone pencils, chalk, and actually basting through a tissue-tracing. 
The basting works, but it takes 2 hours to baste the pattern and remove the
paper vs one hour to actually do the embroidery per element.  So it triples my
time.  I'm getting fairly desperate because 1) I'd like to finish the cape
within my lifetime (LOL) and 2) I have three other capes in the pipeline and
need to get this one off my mannequin.  Suggestions would be gratefully
appreciated.


Sandra Graves, Isis Rising
IsisRising08 @ aol.com
Artistic Endeavors with Wings of Light

Blog at http://sandragravesisisrising.blogspot.com/
Website at www.IsisRising08.com

Stormcloud Trading Co (Beadstorm)
More than "Just" a Beadstore
<http://www.beadstorm.com/>
Saint Paul, Minnesota USA
651-645-0343

Yep, I can't wait either! I have a poem that is in the movie, so eager to see
that part!

Mirimaran

--- In LOTR_Costume@yahoogroups.com, "eowyn_von_rohan" <veneziana@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In LOTR_Costume@yahoogroups.com, "theevenstar57" <theevenstar57@> wrote:
> >
> > Is anyone here following the fan film 'Born of Hope'?
>
> Hi!
>
> Yes, I have seen the film last month at RingCon in Germany. It is fantastic! I
can't wait to see it again next month!
>
> Éowyn
>

--- In LOTR_Costume@yahoogroups.com, "theevenstar57" <theevenstar57@...> wrote:
>
> Is anyone here following the fan film 'Born of Hope'?

Hi!

Yes, I have seen the film last month at RingCon in Germany. It is fantastic! I
can't wait to see it again next month!

Éowyn

Is anyone here following the fan film 'Born of Hope'?  I am so immersed in the
'Lord of the Rings' world - that I want the story to never end - I want there to
be ever more chapters - before and after the story lines already told.  The fan
film for fans - no profit allowed - can be found at
www.bornofhope.com/Welcome.html

My work continues on the Arwen's Requeim Gown recreation.  I am in the midst of
hand embroidering and beading the sleeves.  It has taken far longer than I first
imagined - but now that I am commited to the project - my level of determination
to make it as close to the movie gown as possible - grows ever stronger.

Can't wait, Cat! Thanks for the update!

Mirimaran


>
> Read the whole rumor thing here...
>
http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2009/11/05/34166-hobbit-update-casting-monsters-\
costumes/#more-34166
>

(Oppps that's a quote from another series...)

Actually, rumors over at TORN... or more precisely a report on rumors....

Quote:

"Our source deep inside the production has spilled the beans, or at
least tossed out a few choice beans that with a little sunshine gathered
from around the internet... Our source revealed that Hobbiton is simply
a part of a bigger work already being performed. Work is “50% complete
on set (and) wardrobe design.” To be clear, let us pay careful attention
to the word “design” and not jump to the conclusion that full sets are
being built yet, although that seems possible or close. And it isn’t
completely clear if costume design means planning of costumes or actual
construction of costumes but without concrete, hired actors it seems
fittings and such could not happen yet. It seems more likely that
fabrics and color palettes and concepts are well underway with the
conceptual art being translated to practical applications."

Read the whole rumor thing here...
http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2009/11/05/34166-hobbit-update-casting-monsters-\
costumes/#more-34166

Sandra wrote:
> I know this one is Eomer's breastplate on his leather armor.  They did such an
extraordinary job with the leatherwork on the men of Rohan's armour.  Very nice!
>
	 Yup, very good! Nothing like walking around with a target on your
midsection saying 'bash me repeatedly right here'! <g>

	 -Judy

I know this one is Eomer's breastplate on his leather armor.  They did such an
extraordinary job with the leatherwork on the men of Rohan's armour.  Very nice!


Sandra Graves, Isis Rising
IsisRising08 @ aol.com
Artistic Endeavors with Wings of Light

Blog at http://sandragravesisisrising.blogspot.com/
Website at http://IsisRising08.com

Stormcloud Trading Co (Beadstorm)
More than "Just" a Beadstore
<http://www.beadstorm.com/>
Saint Paul, Minnesota USA
651-645-0343

Faye,

Thank you!  That does give me the drape I'm looking for.  Again, I never would
have thought of it.

Thanks everyone for the help.

Barb

--- In LOTR_Costume@yahoogroups.com, "tongarii" <tongarii@...> wrote:
>
> The loop can be hidden in the seam on the panel's edge.  I didn't use one
because I could just tuck the panel under the belt and it held very well all
day.
>
> Doing it this way, give you a lot of flexability on how you want to drap the
panel.  I found that to get the one shown in the movie, you need to pull the
panel up from the same side (kinda like a roman blind)
>
> I found that if you made the panel a little longer in front, it would drap
corectly.  If you make it to match the hem line, it looks a bit skimpy on the
drap.
>
> faye
> www.simbelmyen.us
>
> --- In LOTR_Costume@yahoogroups.com, "maethoriel_jasmine" <kelli_rn2000@>
wrote:
> >
> > Barb,
> >
> > Here is the link for my photos.  Hope it works.
> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LOTR_Costume/photos/album/392535662/pic/list>
> >
> > As you can see, I played with it first with a very large safety pin to get
the draping correct before I placed the cording.  I was very pleased with the
way it did drape.  You will have to tack the cord loop and possibly the panel in
place to make it stay and drape.
> >
> > Kelli
> >
>

> > "I also am looking to recreate the Faramir/Ranger quiver. (I am an active
archery enthusiast). What is the material of the inside "bag" for the arrows? It
appears to be topped with leather, but the bag looks like duck canvas? Anyone
ever seen or created a pattern for these?"


Moo!

http://fotogalerie.herr-der-ringe-film.de/showphoto.php/photo/205397/cat/7294

You find this picture in "The Lord of the Rings: Weapons and Warfare".

Bye, Móka