Will Terry totally conform?   Tune in next week!

:-P


--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "avid_curren" <tcurren@...> wrote:
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Knut A. Helgeland" <knut@> wrote:
>
>
> <<And more importantly, the DS needs to read them natively, so that we
> > can do MC offline > DS online, the proper way!>>
>
>      With total conform hopefully.
>

Yes, 4-processor G5 (very last version.)

Works great.

Oh, wait- haven't tried that yet.  Did it with 2.8.3.  Should work
great, though- but If you do it, use 3.0.1 in OSX 10.4.11 due to known
(and KILLING ME!) 1394 bug in 10.5.3.

3.0 is working great software only on the same G5, but coincidently
haven't actually tried it with the Mojo.

gh
----------------------------------------------------
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Secret Headquarters, Inc
Post Production / Production
Culver City, CA
323 677 2092
323 677 2096 F
greg (at) secrethq.com
www.secrethq.com
www.digitalservicestation.com

On Jul 31, 2008, at 12:53 PM, John Moore wrote:

> I know the analogue mojo still works on 3.0 on a pc but someone told
> me they were told by a reseller that they should upgrade there
> express pros to 3.0 but then they should run 2.8.3 because their G5
> power pcs wouldn't work with the analogue mojo running 3.0. Anybody
> running analogue mojo with a non intel G5 with 3.0 software?
>
> John Moore
> Barking Trout Productions
> Studio City, CA
> bigfish@...
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>



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Oh, and I think you'll get a firmware flash when you plug the mojo in-
so it may not go backwards without re-flashing.

gh
----------------------------------------------------
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Secret Headquarters, Inc
Post Production / Production
Culver City, CA
323 677 2092
323 677 2096 F
greg (at) secrethq.com
www.secrethq.com
www.digitalservicestation.com

On Jul 31, 2008, at 12:53 PM, John Moore wrote:

> I know the analogue mojo still works on 3.0 on a pc but someone told
> me they were told by a reseller that they should upgrade there
> express pros to 3.0 but then they should run 2.8.3 because their G5
> power pcs wouldn't work with the analogue mojo running 3.0. Anybody
> running analogue mojo with a non intel G5 with 3.0 software?
>
> John Moore
> Barking Trout Productions
> Studio City, CA
> bigfish@...
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>



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On 7/31/08 3:36 PM, "John McClary" <johnnyq_@...> wrote:

>  the mac version will do Windows Media without buying Flip4mac.

But I don't believe you can alter any of the WMV presets without the Flip
upgrade.

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      692 N. High St., Suite 304
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To DS? Highly unlikely...



--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Sengpiehl" <docavid@...> wrote:
>
>
> Will Terry totally conform?   Tune in next week!
>
> :-P
>
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "avid_curren" <tcurren@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Knut A. Helgeland" <knut@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > <<And more importantly, the DS needs to read them natively, so that we
> > > can do MC offline > DS online, the proper way!>>
> >
> >      With total conform hopefully.
> >
>

Ken,

What I think you need to do is to install Ghost at Windows level, then create
bootable media(CD or floppies) and use that to boot from, then restore the
previously created image.

The Ghost installation disk is not bootable per se.

cheers,
Bogdan Grigoresco
Finale EditWorks, Vancouver



--- On Thu, 7/31/08, Ken Sirulnick <kenavid2@...> wrote:
From: Ken Sirulnick <kenavid2@...>
Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: OT: Restore from Norton Ghost
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 10:06 PM











             Well, this is a bit confusing on the Avid website.  If anyone can

shed some light on what the latest BIOS I should have it would be

great.



HPXW8000 W2K SP3

BIOS version PhoenixBIOS 4.0 Release 6.0

Symphony Meridian v 5.1.2



--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com, "avid_curren" <tcurren@... > wrote:

>

> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com, "Ken Sirulnick" <kenavid2@> wrote:

>

>

> <<Will updating BIOS adversly affect any Avid functions?>>

>

>

>      Possibly. You have to make sure you have the approved BIOS

version for the version of

> Avid you are running. I was burned when HP replaced mu mother board

and loaded the

> current BIOS. Symphony Nitris wouldn't work anymore. Had to backrev.

>





























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Google reader every time. Works on Linux too!



Rupert Watson

+44 7787554801

www.root6.com



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Of Wes Plate
Sent: 31 July 2008 18:24
To: Avid-L2
Subject: [Avid-L2] OT: Windows RSS readers?




What free RSS readers do you Windows-users use and like? Thanks!

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At 16:13 -0400 31/7/08, Jimmy Dutt wrote:
>But I don't believe you can alter any of the WMV presets without the Flip
>upgrade.

I think that's right - I remember paying out to get some more control.
--
With best wishes,

Roger Shufflebottom
Avid Certified Instructor

http://www.bottom-line.tv
____________________________________
Tel: +44 1992 535 031 (UK)
Mobile: +44 7973 543 660

The "new thinking" DS story has yet to be told.  I'm sure Terry will
keep an open mind.

Looking forward to seeing it myself.  (Honey- where did you put my 3D
glasses?)

Regarding RED, the Apple/Assimilate exclusive just expired.  That should
translate into real RED workflows, with Metadata, from other NLE makers
soon, including Avid.

Accessing RED engineers could remain an issue for awhile.  Last I heard
there were only 2 of them working 24/7.

Is that enough troops for a true "revolution"?

RT


avid_curren wrote:

> To DS? Highly unlikely...
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Jeff Sengpiehl" <docavid@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Will Terry totally conform? Tune in next week!
> >
> > :-P
> >
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "avid_curren" <tcurren@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Knut A. Helgeland" <knut@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > <<And more importantly, the DS needs to read them natively, so
> that we
> > > > can do MC offline > DS online, the proper way!>>
> > >
> > > With total conform hopefully.
> > >
> >
>
>



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On 7/31/08 1:39 PM, "Rupert Watson" wrote:

> Google reader every time. Works on Linux too!

Thank you for replying.


--
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  Automatic Duck, Inc.
   http://www.automaticduck.com

cheskaflute wrote:

> If so, what kind of MAC
> would you recommend (I know nothing about MAC computers).

There is a link on this page to a PDF listing the current Avid-qualified
Macintosh configurations:

http://www.avid.com/products/Media-Composer-Software/system-requirements.asp

> I read some articles about Sorenson Squeeze not running on MAC. Is
> that true?

Sorenson Squeeze is cross platform; but, it's Windows Media creation
abilities on Mac are limited compared to on Windows.

With the standard install on Mac, Squeeze only encodes to a few non-editable
WMV presets.  (To be fair, that is more than we Mac users had in Squeeze
4.0.)

One can add the Telestream Flip4Mac WMV encoding plugin to Squeeze, by
purchasing it from Sorenson or Telestream directly.

-Jeff

Roger Shufflebottom wrote:

> At 16:13 -0400 31/7/08, Jimmy Dutt wrote:
>
>> But I don't believe you can alter any of the WMV presets without the Flip
>> upgrade.
>
> I think that's right - I remember paying out to get some more control.

That is correct.  The presets are definitely good enough for approvals; but,
it would be nice to have the tweakability for final outputs.

That said, I decided that I'd rather give my money to Parallels and (gasp!)
Microsoft, to be able to run the Windows version of Squeeze on my new
MacBook Pro.

Works fine in encoding tests so far.  I created a shared folder, and both
OS' see it fine.  (It's like running Cleaner 5 in Classic all over again!)

As a bonus, I might even learn how to use Avid DVD as a result.

-Jeff

Does this mean that Symphony Nitris under win64 will have the same
limitations as DS when it comes to importing / exporting quicktime
files? Or will Symphony be a 32 bit program running in a 64
environment, in which case what advantages do you get?

tia
-Mike



--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "pepeserventi" <pepeserventi@...> wrote:
>
> This is very exciting news. Job try it and let us know what
> happens. :).
>
> I'd do it first but I'm just a scaredy cat.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Curtis Nichols <curtisnpcs@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Symphony 3.0 ReadMe PDF on the Avid knowledge base:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/5oujyb
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Curtis Nichols
> > Senior Editor
> > PCS Production Co.
> > Irving, Tx.
> >
> > ------------------
> > ------------------
> >
> > https://www.shopwithscrip.com/
> >  Code: 98BB4L3713397
> >
>

Gary

Gary Greenfield
Office +1 (978) 640-5542
Home Office: +1 (301) 983-1634
Mobile: +1 (301) 529-4573
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Gary_Greenfield@...
gary@...

I don't know what the I/O QT issue is, but if it is related to QT being
32 bit - then probably yes.
Symphony is a 32 bit app thus limited to 4GB of RAM. In Vista64 it will
continue this limitation. The difference is the way WXP handles memory,
apps are actually limited to only 2GB (or about 2.5GB with the /3GB
patch). So basically double the amount of RAM Symphony can use.



mike30fps wrote:
> Does this mean that Symphony Nitris under win64 will have the same
> limitations as DS when it comes to importing / exporting quicktime
> files? Or will Symphony be a 32 bit program running in a 64
> environment, in which case what advantages do you get?
>
> tia
> -Mike
>
>
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "pepeserventi" <pepeserventi@...> wrote:
>
>> This is very exciting news. Job try it and let us know what
>> happens. :).
>>
>> I'd do it first but I'm just a scaredy cat.
>>
>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Curtis Nichols <curtisnpcs@> wrote:
>>
>>> Symphony 3.0 ReadMe PDF on the Avid knowledge base:
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/5oujyb
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Curtis Nichols
>>> Senior Editor
>>> PCS Production Co.
>>> Irving, Tx.
>>>
>>> ------------------
>>> ------------------
>>>
>>> https://www.shopwithscrip.com/
>>>  Code: 98BB4L3713397
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Search the complete Avid-L archives at:
>
> http://archives.itg.uiuc.edu/avid/
>
> The Avid L2, Where the Answers are.Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

Hmmmm....



--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Greenfield" <gary@...> wrote:
>
>
> Gary
>
> Gary Greenfield
> Office +1 (978) 640-5542
> Home Office: +1 (301) 983-1634
> Mobile: +1 (301) 529-4573
> Fax to Email: +1 (240) 465-0361
>
> Gary_Greenfield@...
> gary@...
>

Anyone want to try that cell number?

Steve Pomerantz
Senior Editor
Digital Ranch Productions
Sherman Oaks, CA

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "avid_curren" <tcurren@...> wrote:
>
> Hmmmm....
>
>
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Greenfield" <gary@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > Gary Greenfield
> > Office +1 (978) 640-5542
> > Home Office: +1 (301) 983-1634
> > Mobile: +1 (301) 529-4573
> > Fax to Email: +1 (240) 465-0361
> >
> > Gary_Greenfield@
> > gary@
> >
>

Symphony Nitris running under Vista 64 is a 32 bit application. However, the
drivers are all 64 bit and running under Vista 64 actually does provide some
added head room for RAM so there is benefit to it.

One caveat is that some 3rd party drivers aren't available quite yet so you need
to be aware of that.

Michel Rynderman
Avid Technology, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Dom Q. Silverio
Sent: Thu 7/31/2008 7:39 PM
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: 3.0 Nitris

I don't know what the I/O QT issue is, but if it is related to QT being
32 bit - then probably yes.
Symphony is a 32 bit app thus limited to 4GB of RAM. In Vista64 it will
continue this limitation. The difference is the way WXP handles memory,
apps are actually limited to only 2GB (or about 2.5GB with the /3GB
patch). So basically double the amount of RAM Symphony can use.



mike30fps wrote:
> Does this mean that Symphony Nitris under win64 will have the same
> limitations as DS when it comes to importing / exporting quicktime
> files? Or will Symphony be a 32 bit program running in a 64
> environment, in which case what advantages do you get?
>
> tia
> -Mike
>
>
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "pepeserventi" <pepeserventi@...> wrote:
>
>> This is very exciting news. Job try it and let us know what
>> happens. :).
>>
>> I'd do it first but I'm just a scaredy cat.
>>
>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Curtis Nichols <curtisnpcs@> wrote:
>>
>>> Symphony 3.0 ReadMe PDF on the Avid knowledge base:
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/5oujyb
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Curtis Nichols
>>> Senior Editor
>>> PCS Production Co.
>>> Irving, Tx.
>>>
>>> ------------------
>>> ------------------
>>>
>>> https://www.shopwithscrip.com/
>>>  Code: 98BB4L3713397
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Search the complete Avid-L archives at:
>
> http://archives.itg.uiuc.edu/avid/
>
> The Avid L2, Where the Answers are.Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>


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"Michel Rynderman" (01-08-2008 02:24) :

> some 3rd party drivers aren't available quite yet

Hi Michael,

Can you be more specific?

Thx!


--
Job ter Burg
film editor - NL

Job,

When we shipped I believe the Sony XDCAM drivers weren't available. There may
have been others but I know about that one. I'm not sure whether it's available
yet or not. I would check with Sony.

Michel


-----Original Message-----
From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Job ter Burg (L2B)
Sent: Thu 7/31/2008 8:44 PM
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: 3.0 Nitris

"Michel Rynderman" (01-08-2008 02:24) :

> some 3rd party drivers aren't available quite yet

Hi Michael,

Can you be more specific?

Thx!


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Hullfish"
>I think what he meant by "Apple helped Cold Mountain" was that all
> the press about it being cut on Apple actually helped the box office.
> I don't think he meant that Apple helped the post production of Cold
> Mountain. The book definitely refutes that.
>
> Steve Hullfish


Yes, THAT'S what I meant.

(I have read the book. As a former Post Production Supervisor I wouldn't
have permitted Murch to use FCP, frankly.)

"Ok Walter, let's see where we're at. Unproven software which probably won't
do accurate neg pulls or any at all. Or it might, we won't know until deep
in shoot. Or during neg cutting. The company behind it says they won't
support and recommend against this use. A new version which may or may not
work as advertised may not be available when we want to go. Not only that,
none of the editorial team has used the software. In fact, you are
completely unfamiliar with it."

"Anything I've left out? Oh, yeah, NOBODY ELSE has ever done this, we'll be
completely on our own."

"Moreover, our Insurers want reassurance we're not heading to disaster here.
Without them on board we ain't got no picture, the studio and investors
stand to lose tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars. All our careers
will be adversely affected if we have to shut down to change systems. Worse,
if Completion takes us over."

"What should I include in my letter to the Film Completion Insurers, eh?"

"Walter?"
  ...

"Hello, Stuart Baird? Hey listen mate..."

I have to say, I was about to ask "where do we send the letters TO
Gary, now that he has started to correspond with us, but that kind of
answers that.

Rainer Standke


On Jul 31, 2008, at 16:34 , Gary Greenfield wrote:

>
> Gary
>
> Gary Greenfield
> Office +1 (978) 640-5542
> Home Office: +1 (301) 983-1634
> Mobile: +1 (301) 529-4573
> Fax to Email: +1 (240) 465-0361
>
> Gary_Greenfield@...
> gary@...
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Search the complete Avid-L archives at:
>
> http://archives.itg.uiuc.edu/avid/
>
> The Avid L2, Where the Answers are.Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

> Symphony is a 32 bit app thus limited to 4GB of RAM.
In Vista64 it will continue this limitation.

How is Vista 64 vs. the 32bit version in performance,
stability and bugs? I've been tempted to try XP 64 but
I doubt Express Pro and Mojo would function properly.

Tom McDonnell

On 7/31/08 7:56 PM, "avid_curren" <tcurren@...> wrote:

> Hmmmm....

Perhaps *not* aware of all internet traditions?

--

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John,

You're missing a key point. Murch was supported by Digital
FilmTree, not Apple. DFT specializes in film post services and
in fact is one of the companies involved in resurrecting negative
cuts on old TV shows that failed to do so in the 70s and 80s. In
addition, no decent negative cutting has EVER truly trusted
electronic lists, regardless of whether from Avid or anyone else.
Most double-check using their own methods. I don't know if CM
had workprint, but typically high-budget features have had work
print, which is conformed to the electronic lists and then negative
is conformed to that. So there's less risk than it appears.

Sincerely,
Oliver

> John Hollands  wrote:
> (I have read the book. As a former Post Production Supervisor I wouldn't
> have permitted Murch to use FCP, frankly.)
> "Ok Walter, let's see where we're at. Unproven software which probably won't
> do accurate neg pulls or any at all. Or it might, we won't know until deep
> in shoot. Or during neg cutting. ...

He should have stopped at the Sex Pistols comparison - that was funny!
But in reallity FCP is more like an EMO band for that matter...


On 8/1/08, Oliver Peters <oliverpeters@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> John,
>
>  You're missing a key point. Murch was supported by Digital
>  FilmTree, not Apple. DFT specializes in film post services and
>  in fact is one of the companies involved in resurrecting negative
>  cuts on old TV shows that failed to do so in the 70s and 80s. In
>  addition, no decent negative cutting has EVER truly trusted
>  electronic lists, regardless of whether from Avid or anyone else.
>  Most double-check using their own methods. I don't know if CM
>  had workprint, but typically high-budget features have had work
>  print, which is conformed to the electronic lists and then negative
>  is conformed to that. So there's less risk than it appears.
>
>  Sincerely,
>  Oliver
>
>  > John Hollands wrote:
>  > (I have read the book. As a former Post Production Supervisor I wouldn't
>  > have permitted Murch to use FCP, frankly.)
>  > "Ok Walter, let's see where we're at. Unproven software which probably
> won't
>  > do accurate neg pulls or any at all. Or it might, we won't know until
> deep
>  > in shoot. Or during neg cutting. ...

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "John Hollands" <johnhollands@...> wrote:
>
"All our careers
will be adversely affected if we have to shut down to change systems."

At least you're honest about it.  Most people facing this decision are unwilling
to admit that
they're afraid to risk their jobs. They couch their decision in techno babble
and market speak,
but it really comes down to FEAR!  Fear for their own ass.

Innovation is NOT for the feint of heart.

Mark

Has anyone had any luck importing an MP4 into Media Composer? Is there a trick?
Or does
one have to convert it then import it.

Avid doesn't import MPEG directly.  They must be converted.


Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

Randy
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(818) 406-8480 Cellular
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-----Original Message-----
From: "mmcapper" <mmcapper@...>

Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:44:30
To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Avid-L2] Importing MP4 file


Has anyone had any luck importing an MP4 into Media Composer? Is there a trick?
Or does
one have to convert it then import it.




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But feinting tends to be for the innovative in my experience ;-)

At least when it doesn't go to plan!

Rupert Watson
+44 7787554801
www.root6.com

From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mark
raudonis
Sent: 01 August 2008 04:45
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: A letter from Gary.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "John Hollands" <johnhollands@...> wrote:
>
"All our careers
will be adversely affected if we have to shut down to change systems."

At least you're honest about it. Most people facing this decision are unwilling
to admit that
they're afraid to risk their jobs. They couch their decision in techno babble
and market speak,
but it really comes down to FEAR! Fear for their own ass.

Innovation is NOT for the feint of heart.

Mark

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