David Chmura wrote:

>Meridien works great with DVCAM, but get yourself a real rs422 deck...  DSR 80,
1800,
>2000, whatever.  Forget about trying to do it with DSR45 or (God forbid) a
DSR11 and
>LANC adapter or some of the other crazy things people try.  If money is a
problem, you
>should be able to locate a used DSR80 on eBay or elsewhere, and you will be
very happy!
>
>
>

Keep in mind that we are a small shop and don't have the resources of a
Big Post House.

We did a tour last year of all the NASA field centers as well as all the
major contractors - Thiokol, Boeing, et al.  We needed to travel quick
and light, so my DP brought his Panasonic VX-100 and built an RDP (rapid
deployment package - NASA loves those acronyms!).  Most of our stuff is
generally shot Beta SP, so I have Beta decks in the edit suite.

I bought a DSR-45 'cause it was reasonably priced, has component in/out
and RS422, and plays/records all DV and DVCAM formats.  It works
flawlessly with my (rock-solid) Meridien system, and we have had no
trouble with it.  The major drawback - and it IS a big one - is that one
cannot do a digital cut back to the deck.  Would that feature be worth a
couple extra grand?  In retrospect, yes - I would certainly like to have
that capability.

Having said that, I think it is a valuable little deck, and it has more
than paid for itself, so I don't feel bad about the purchase.  I am
going to add a FCP HD suite this year, and I will upgrade the decks when
I do so.  I think I am going to hang on to my Meridien when the lease is
up as well - it has been a great system and I see no need to get rid of
it, particularly in light of the stuff I read on the (former) -L about
Adrenaline.

Okay, I'm rambling a bit, but wanted to make a contribution to the L2 on
its maiden flight.

Marc Havican
Space City Films, Inc.

Please visit us on the web at www.spacecityfilms.com

I would actually update the dongle first. This is just in case the
dongle updater is incorrect you are not left hanging. You can still use
version 11.  You would have to wait for Avid Customer Service to to
release you a new update.

So I would do Steve's steps 2, 1 and then 3.


Dom Q. Silverio





1. Upgrade Service Pack
2. Upgrade Donger Versioner
3. Install MC 12

Glad to see this happening...and really like the file repository
section...

Lee

The first is correct. The OS needs to be correct
before you install the software, as for the dongle, it
shouldn't matter. The Software won't launch until the
dongle is updated. I've always updated the dongle very
last.
At my last job, once we had updated a PC to v12, we
had to pull all the boards out and reseat them to get
the system working, even though they hadn't been
touched and worked fine in 11.8. The auto color
corrector in 12 just seems to make me lazy.


Rick

--- Steve Simmons <stevetheeditor@...> wrote:

> Hi.  Let's get this new L's show on the road!
>
> I'm considering upgrading my Win2K Media Composer 11
> to 12.  I have the software and the higher service
> pack (and I think there's a dongle versioner too).
> I
> don't know what order to install these components.
> Is
> it:
>
> 1. Upgrade Service Pack
> 2. Upgrade Donger Versioner
> 3. Install MC 12
>
> If that's correct please let me know, otherwise
> please
> advise.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Steve Simmons
> Editor



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Hi.  Let's get this new L's show on the road!

I'm considering upgrading my Win2K Media Composer 11
to 12.  I have the software and the higher service
pack (and I think there's a dongle versioner too).  I
don't know what order to install these components.  Is
it:

1. Upgrade Service Pack
2. Upgrade Donger Versioner
3. Install MC 12

If that's correct please let me know, otherwise please
advise.

Thanks.

Steve Simmons
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Glad to see this happening...and really like the file repository
section...

Lee

On Jun 17, 2005, at 5:23 PM, David Chmura wrote:

>  Glad we are finally doing the Alt-L, it's been a long time coming.  I
> expect most of the
>  "good ones" will be along within a short time.  Getting the "gateway"
> to the list off the Avid
>  website should keep out most of the knuckleheads.  Having a moderater
> is definitely FINE
>  with me and I think Jeff S. or Frank or almost any of the old-timers
> would do a great job.

Jeff, Frank, et al:

Thanks for setting this up. As you may or may not be aware, I resigned
the Avid-L last week in disgust. Gonna give this a try and see if I can
hang on. ;-)


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Production Sound Mixer

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Jeff, would it okay to stick the latest avid codecs up
in the files section? I have them up on my website now
along with some fcp codecs for when I freelance, and
don't want to search around the Avid site for them.

Rick



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know its the first day and its certainly not my
place to moderate...

...but in as much it is the first day and a fresh
start at something, may I suggest we place some
thoughtfullness, not just humor,  into our
Subject Titles?
It will help all of us in the future when we find
ourselves searching for answers.

Thanks,
george

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RE: Dave stated:
"Meridien works great with DVCAM, but get
yourself a real rs422 deck...  DSR 80, 1800,
2000, whatever.  Forget about trying to do it
with DSR45..."

________

While I prefer using the menu on a DSR80, I've
never had any issue w/deck control on the DSR45,
so I don't understand why you don't consider it a
"real RS422" deck. It's also half the money.

george

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Meridien works great with DVCAM, but get yourself a real rs422 deck...  DSR 80,
1800,
2000, whatever.  Forget about trying to do it with DSR45 or (God forbid) a DSR11
and
LANC adapter or some of the other crazy things people try.  If money is a
problem, you
should be able to locate a used DSR80 on eBay or elsewhere, and you will be very
happy!

Glad we are finally doing the Alt-L, it's been a long time coming.  I expect
most of the
"good ones" will be along within a short time.  Getting the "gateway" to the
list off the Avid
website should keep out most of the knuckleheads.  Having a moderater is
definitely FINE
with me and I think Jeff S. or Frank or almost any of the old-timers would do a
great job.

I'd also like to say that I've been working a lot with FCP lately and I still
greatly prefer Avid
for most kinds of cutting.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of David Dodson
> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 2:29 PM
> To: avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Avid-L2] Much Obliged, Jeff

> Now!  I have a question; I'm organizing a couple of
> Meridien systems to be used on a feature shooting in
> New Zealand later this year.  However, the company
> wants to transfer dailies to DVcam.  I've never
> personally used this workflow (only DVcam into
> Adrenaline).  Can they come out of a DVcam deck and
> into Meridien?  Is some kind of media converter
> needed?

Knut A. Helgeland wrote:

>and it works fine! Hi guys.
>
>


Hey Knut.  Yay, I'm in!

Marc Havican

and it works fine! Hi guys.

K
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Now!  I have a question; I'm organizing a couple of
Meridien systems to be used on a feature shooting in
New Zealand later this year.  However, the company
wants to transfer dailies to DVcam.  I've never
personally used this workflow (only DVcam into
Adrenaline).  Can they come out of a DVcam deck and
into Meridien?  Is some kind of media converter
needed?

Just seeing how this works from Eudora.

K
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Toxic Design Studio
http://www.toxic.no
_______________________________________

Hope this cuts the background noise.

here's a posting I emailed a while ago to the 'old' L, and haven't heard any response..  Any help out there yet?:

I'm trying to find information on using the Digi 02 with adrenaline, but haven't been able to find this info in the knowledge base.  Can anyone point me in the right direction?

tia

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On my Meridien systems, I am a huge fan of the DSR1800. I have had
mixed results with RS422 on the 1500 decks, but the 1800's have been
flawless for me, and in fact we just bought two more 'cause I like
them so much.
Elonwy

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Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 2:29 PM
To: avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Avid-L2] Much Obliged, Jeff

Jeff,

Thanks for mid-wifing this new incarnation of the L.

Someone should probably write a Master's thesis on the
social/communal dynamics at work in the L.  There's
probably anthroplogical gold in them thar hills.

Now!  I have a question; I'm organizing a couple of
Meridien systems to be used on a feature shooting in
New Zealand later this year.  However, the company
wants to transfer dailies to DVcam.  I've never
personally used this workflow (only DVcam into
Adrenaline).  Can they come out of a DVcam deck and
into Meridien?  Is some kind of media converter
needed?

Thanks,

David

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818-523-0905 mobile

"David Dodson" (17-06-2005 23:29) :

> Now!  I have a question; I'm organizing a couple of
> Meridien systems to be used on a feature shooting in
> New Zealand later this year.  However, the company
> wants to transfer dailies to DVcam.  I've never
> personally used this workflow (only DVcam into
> Adrenaline).  Can they come out of a DVcam deck and
> into Meridien?  Is some kind of media converter

There are DVCAM decks like the DSR1500, 1600, 1800 and 2000 that have
(optional) SDI and AES I/O.

There are also decks that only have FireWire.

I would not recommend controlling a deck from Avid through FireWire, so
choose the 1500 or better so that you have RS422 control.

From there on, no diiference with any other deck.

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Hope this cuts the background noise.

 

here's a posting I emailed a while ago to the 'old' L, and haven't heard any response..  Any help out there yet?:

 

I'm trying to find information on using the Digi 02 with adrenaline, but haven't been able to find this info in the knowledge base.  Can anyone point me in the right direction?

 

tia

 

gh

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Jeff,

Thanks for mid-wifing this new incarnation of the L.

Someone should probably write a Master's thesis on the
social/communal dynamics at work in the L.  There's
probably anthroplogical gold in them thar hills.

Now!  I have a question; I'm organizing a couple of
Meridien systems to be used on a feature shooting in
New Zealand later this year.  However, the company
wants to transfer dailies to DVcam.  I've never
personally used this workflow (only DVcam into
Adrenaline).  Can they come out of a DVcam deck and
into Meridien?  Is some kind of media converter
needed?

Thanks,

David

David Dodson
davidadodson@...
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818-523-0905 mobile

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "d_avid_at_pvt" <dspraker@p...> wrote:
> We've needed this for SO LONG!!!
>
> I've been on the Boris BCC Beta list and it's so nice to get just
> stuff that's on topic.
>
> I assume you won't be passing out the secret handshake to everyone...
>
> - Dave
>
> PS:  I couldn't resist posting some photos of my little mojo at work
> for ESPN last year...

Nope, I won't be.   But, spread the word,  It's a new level!

JDS

We've needed this for SO LONG!!!

I've been on the Boris BCC Beta list and it's so nice to get just
stuff that's on topic.

I assume you won't be passing out the secret handshake to everyone...

- Dave

PS:  I couldn't resist posting some photos of my little mojo at work
for ESPN last year...

Let's see what happens.

F

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